Titan Weapons and Willpower


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These powersets are what I want to make my next main out of. Problem is, I am having trouble deciding on an AT. I understand the differences between the archetypes themselves, but which of the three would be able to use the powersets most effectively? Would the extra damage of TW be useful on a Scrapper? Or would the extra durability of WP on a Tanker outshine it? Should I compromise and make a Brute? I don't honestly don't know... Would anyone care to share their experiences with the sets?


 

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I haven't actually tried TW with a Brute (just with a Scrapper). I'm not sure this set would work very well with a Brute. When you don't have Momentum all your attacks take an extra couple of seconds to animate, and you only ever have Momentum for 5 seconds at a time (or so). I'm thinking this would make it extra difficult for the go-go-go nature of the Brute, and in generating Fury.


 

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Scrapper vs Brute is pretty much a toss-up. Do you prefer chasing Fury, or not? Neither TW nor WP particularly favors either AT.

Tanker is also good, but a rather different animal. If you want to be a tank first and foremost, make a Tanker. If you don't want to be a tank, don't make a Tanker.


 

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Scrapper vs Brute is pretty much a toss-up. Do you prefer chasing Fury, or not? Neither TW nor WP particularly favors either AT.

Tanker is also good, but a rather different animal. If you want to be a tank first and foremost, make a Tanker. If you don't want to be a tank, don't make a Tanker.
Indeed. But how does TW perform on a Tanker? Or is it negligible? I don't really like the idea of being forced to take Defensive Sweep.


 

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I have played TW on a Scrapper and on a Brute, but not on a Tanker, so I couldn't tell you in much detail how it performs there. Presumably, it does less damage than a Scrapper/Brute, but holds aggro more easily.

If you don't want to take Defensive Sweep, Tanker is probably not the best choice. Waiting until 35 and 38 to actually get the great AoE powers TW is known for is maybe not exciting to you either.


 

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I have played TW on a Scrapper and on a Brute, but not on a Tanker, so I couldn't tell you in much detail how it performs there. Presumably, it does less damage than a Scrapper/Brute, but holds aggro more easily.

If you don't want to take Defensive Sweep, Tanker is probably not the best choice. Waiting until 35 and 38 to actually get the great AoE powers TW is known for is maybe not exciting to you either.
Good point, I think I'll hold off on the Tanker then. Now I need to choose between a Scrapper and a Brute. Oy. I might just flip a coin, haha.


 

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I would suggest for solo Brute because you need to survive a lot of damage before you can get momentum and fury stacked up. But for teaming scrapper because everyone else is going to be cleaning up the mobs before you get a chance to wind up.


 

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Question:

-How good and tolerant of slow animating attacks are you?

If you've used slower attacks like Energy Transfer, Concentrated Strike or Shadow Maul and hate them or feel everytime you use them the team steals your kills, you might want to make your decision upon that.

If you can't stand people taking your kills like that, it's probably better you play Scrapper. They don't have to ramp up their damage so even if their initial target is defeated by a teammate, you'll still have the damage to wipe out others with your momentary momentum. In the Brute's case, you'd still have to swing a few times before you really get going and may have your target defeated by someone else.

If you can tolerate this and/or you've learned to handle that situation in different ways, the Brute will get close to the same damage but with better HP and regen not to mention a more smoother right up the levels since you can slot your attacks full with endurance redux and recharge whereas the Scrapper will need to try and balance extra dmg slotting in there.

I'll let someone who's actually played a TW Tanker comment on that combo.


 

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Speaking as someone who has a TW/Elec brute she loves to bits...

Go scrapper.

TW crits. Oh my god, TW crits y'all.

WP has a taunt aura, so you won't be disadvantaged when it comes to runners. There will obviously a survivability gap, but a WP scrapper can be made plenty durable and it gets massive damage on top.


 

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Play whichever AT you prefer.

When I saw TW I bought it and rolled one immediately, but even on an AT that I love (Scrapper) I found the Momentum mechanics put me off the set. If you love chasing Fury then you probably won't mind how Momentum affects it, but if you aren't such a fan of Fury then I think being a scrapper helps.

WP can be made plenty survivable on either.


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Having both Brute and Scrapper Titan Weapon characters, it's perfectly fun on either. Though honestly the titan criticals just make me smile in all sorts of naughty ways that fury doesn't quite match, but it's a very close second.



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Thanks for all your replies! I entered Praetoria last night as a Scrapper... and the crits make me tingle. It's really nice. I can tell I'm gonna love this toon. I'm glad to have found a Scrapper I want to play again!


 

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These powersets are what I want to make my next main out of. Problem is, I am having trouble deciding on an AT. I understand the differences between the archetypes themselves, but which of the three would be able to use the powersets most effectively? Would the extra damage of TW be useful on a Scrapper? Or would the extra durability of WP on a Tanker outshine it? Should I compromise and make a Brute? I don't honestly don't know... Would anyone care to share their experiences with the sets?
The way to decide between Brute and Scrapper imo is what would you rather have, Brute PPPs, or Scrapper PPPs imo Brute Soul Mastery beats out the other options in terms of survivability and general value with the exception of water sprite and shadowmeld the scrapper PPPs suck


 

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The way to decide between Brute and Scrapper imo is what would you rather have, Brute PPPs, or Scrapper PPPs imo Brute Soul Mastery beats out the other options in terms of survivability and general value with the exception of water sprite and shadowmeld the scrapper PPPs suck
Fire Ball begs to differ.

But otherwise you are right, and Gloom is OP


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The biggest problem with TW Brutes is that you wind up having to chase both momentum and fury, which can be exhausting. Scrappers have the same ability to push forward very fast, but you don't feel penalized if you have to stop for five seconds to let your impressive fast healing patch you up. While a Brute would have better health which would increase your survivability noticeably with WP's pseudo-regeneration defenses, the Scrapper will have noticeably higher burst damage which should more than compensate. Speaking as someone who has played TW Brutes and specifically a TW/WP Scrapper, go with the Scrapper. Once you get Quick Recovery and RttC it's like being an electric lawnmower, just keep cutting through your enemies.


 

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I prefer Scrapper for TW.

I toyed around w/ TW/WP and it was ok, but TW/Electric Armor worked out better for me. YMMV


 

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Fire Ball begs to differ.

But otherwise you are right, and Gloom is OP
I'm speeking of the PPPs as far as i can tell the APPs are mostly the same between the melee ATs except for a few power differences in some pools but IIRC fire is 100% the same between Tanks/Brutes/Scrappers/Stalkers


 

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I'm speeking of the PPPs as far as i can tell the APPs are mostly the same between the melee ATs except for a few power differences in some pools but IIRC fire is 100% the same between Tanks/Brutes/Scrappers/Stalkers
Ah sorry I suck at reading sometimes


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Ah sorry I suck at reading sometimes
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