Build in this priority: Typed Def > Regen > Resis > Recov
If you can stack mitigation your character will be a lot tougher than just regeneration. WP doesn't deal well with burst damage unless it has a ton of enemies around it to buff its regen.
Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
Here is what I have.
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Kinetic Melee
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Quick Strike -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(3), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(7), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(5), ResDam-I(11)
Level 2: Body Blow -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(3), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(7), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 4: Mind Over Body -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(5), TtmC'tng-EndRdx/Rchg(9), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15), TtmC'tng-ResDam(21), TtmC'tng-EndRdx(50)
Level 6: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 8: Smashing Blow -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(9), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(11), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 10: Fast Healing -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(13), Heal-I(13)
Level 12: Power Siphon -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 14: Indomitable Will -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 16: Repulsing Torrent -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(17), Dmg-I(17)
Level 18: Rise to the Challenge -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(43), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(46), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Dct'dW-Heal(46), Dct'dW-Rchg(50)
Level 20: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(21), DefBuff-I(39)
Level 22: Burst -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(23), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(23), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(40), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48)
Level 24: Quick Recovery -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(25), EndMod-I(25)
Level 26: Focused Burst -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(27), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(29), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(29), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34), RedFtn-Def(34), RedFtn-EndRdx(37)
Level 30: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Tough -- ResDam-I(A)
Level 35: Concentrated Strike -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(36), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Resurgence -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Strength of Will -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(42), TtmC'tng-EndRdx/Rchg(42), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42), TtmC'tng-ResDam(43), TtmC'tng-EndRdx(43)
Level 44: Weave -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(45), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(45), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45), RedFtn-Def(48), RedFtn-EndRdx(48)
Level 47: Spring Attack -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 49: Conserve Power -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 4: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 4: Health -- Heal-I(A)
Level 4: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 4: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(50)
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Suggestions? Keep in mind that I'm going cheap on this with IO's and will swap out to "higher" level ones when I have the $$$
Something witty and profound
I can't remember if this is the build I have right now on my KM/WP, but at least it could give some ideas.
<Yes, it's expensive>
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Power Strike: Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Kinetic Melee
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Body Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), GS-Acc/Dmg(37), GS-Acc/End/Rech(37)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(5), Numna-Heal/Rchg(7), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(17)
Level 2: Smashing Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(33), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 4: Fast Healing -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(11), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(11), Mrcl-Rcvry+(13), Mrcl-Heal(13), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(15)
Level 6: Power Siphon -- GSFC-Build%(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(15), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(17), GSFC-ToHit(40), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(42), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(43)
Level 8: Mind Over Body -- Aegis-Psi/Status(A), Aegis-ResDam(19), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(36), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(40), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- Ksmt-ToHit+(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(19), SW-ResDam/Re TP(48)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(21)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(39), Winter-ResSlow(39)
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- Mrcl-Heal(A), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(21), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(23)
Level 18: Burst -- Erad-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(23), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(25), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(27), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(40)
Level 20: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(42)
Level 22: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 24: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(46), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 26: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(27), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(31)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(29), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(29)
Level 30: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(31)
Level 32: Concentrated Strike -- SScrappersS-Dmg/Rchg(A), SScrappersS-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SScrappersS-Acc/Dmg(33), SScrappersS-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SScrappersS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SScrappersS-Rchg/+Crit(36)
Level 35: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(36)
Level 38: Dark Blast -- Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Decim-Build%(48), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(50), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 41: Resurgence -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Spring Attack -- Armgdn-Dam%(A), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(45), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(50)
Level 47: Shadow Meld -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Strength of Will -- GA-3defTpProc(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- RgnTis-Regen+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(45)
Level 1: Brawl -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(39), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Void Core Final Judgement
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
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You should be able to get 32.5 SLFCEN, then use small purples. If you can get them to 30 SLFCEN, the DA temp will cover the rest. Otherwise go Sword/WP and cap them all. I generally don't build well typed, I prefer vectored, but I did well enough with Kat/Will. I have sense replaced the Kat/Will with a Staff/Will that was replaced by a Staff/Fire.
AF_Bill's build looks even better, defensively. I have no clue on the KM part.
I can't help you with KM, but here's a Kat/Will. You'll have to adapt it to KM and shift the defenses to compensate for the loss of parry.
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You can cap S/L/E/N and still have around 650% regen with 1 foe in RTTC.
I had a StJ/WP build on here (I'm sure it shows up in forum searches) that did that, and a bunch of other builds.
Yeh, WP has no def debuff resist, but reaching the softcap on your own sure is nice and helps. F/C are the least important to cap in the game as it stands today.
This isn't my final build but it gives you and idea of how to look at things to softcap S/L/E/N. Certainly if you are up for chugging purples than putting more into regen or even +rchrg (depending on your primary, attack chain etc.) can be good instead.
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I've been playing around with Mids and can't find any way to get decent damage mitigation out of the set. However it does mad HP and Regen. Am I missing something or is that the way to go?
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Originally Posted by Santorican
Build in this priority: Typed Def > Regen > Resis > Recov
If you can stack mitigation your character will be a lot tougher than just regeneration. WP doesn't deal well with burst damage unless it has a ton of enemies around it to buff its regen. |
As Santorican said, work on getting your typed defenses [especially smashing/lethal and energy/negative] up to decent-to-good levels, and see what you can do to slot your regen and resistances as well as possible -- within reason. Willpower doesn't have to reach Super Reflex levels of defense -- when a WP scrapper gets hit, they've got more resistance so less damage gets through, and then they can regenerate the hit points back. When SR gets hit, well, there's not much in the way of mitigation except for Aid Self.
Your best solution to burst damage is probably using High Pain Tolerance and set bonuses to increase your Max Hit Points!
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Yeh, WP has no def debuff resist, but reaching the softcap on your own sure is nice and helps.
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"But it wasn't anything some purples and oranges and lots of screaming in fear couldn't handle." -- Werner
30 level 50's: 12 scrappers, 7 other random melee types, 11 blaster/blapper/support squishies, two accounts, and a TON of altitis since 4/28/04
Been doing a bit of learning about WP recently. Here's something I wouldn't mind taking out.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.956
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Kinetic Melee
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Body Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(5), HO:Nucle(5)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- RctvArm-ResDam:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(7), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(7), Numna-Heal:50(9), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(9), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg:50(11)
Level 2: Smashing Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(13), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(13), HO:Nucle(15)
Level 4: Fast Healing -- Numna-Heal:50(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(15), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg:50(17)
Level 6: Mind Over Body -- RctvArm-ResDam:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(21), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(23), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(23)
Level 8: Power Siphon -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- LkGmblr-Def:50(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(25), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(25)
Level 12: Repulsing Torrent -- Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(27), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(27), Posi-Dmg/Rng:50(29), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(29)
Level 14: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(31)
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- HO:Golgi(A), HO:Golgi(33), HO:Golgi(33)
Level 18: Burst -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(33), Erad-%Dam:30(34), SScrappersS-Acc/Dmg:50(34), SScrappersS-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(34), SScrappersS-Rchg/+Crit:50(36)
Level 20: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-End%:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod:50(36), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(36)
Level 22: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(37), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(37), GA-3defTpProc:50(37)
Level 24: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def:50(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(39), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(39)
Level 26: Focused Burst -- Decim-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(39), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(40), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(40), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(40)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- LkGmblr-Def:50(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(42)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Def:50(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(43)
Level 32: Concentrated Strike -- SScrappersS-Dmg/Rchg:35(A), SScrappersS-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:35(43), SScrappersS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(43), HO:Nucle(45), HO:Nucle(45)
Level 35: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Def:50(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(45), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(46)
Level 38: Super Jump -- Winter-ResSlow:50(A)
Level 41: Spring Attack -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(46), Erad-%Dam:30(46), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg:50(48), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx:50(48), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg:50(48)
Level 44: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 47: Focused Accuracy -- Rec'dRet-ToHit:20(A), EndRdx-I:20(50), Rec'dRet-Pcptn:20(50)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%:50(A), RgnTis-Regen+:30(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 4: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 4: Health -- Numna-Heal:50(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(17), Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(19)
Level 4: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 4: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod:50(19), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(21)
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WP already gives great regen with minimal slotting, what you should aim for is extra health and defense. Softcapping S/L should be your priority, with en/neg a close second. WP is all about layered defenses, if you only specialize in one thing, it will feel week in comparison to competing sets that are properly built. Also, the tier 9 in WP is great in that it's not a total crash when it wears out.
I've been playing around with Mids and can't find any way to get decent damage mitigation out of the set. However it does mad HP and Regen. Am I missing something or is that the way to go?
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