Earth/Storm with DMG?
Your never going to due massive damage with Earth. Your damage is going to be from Rocky (stoner), Lightning Storm and Tornado (especially solo since you can readily apply -kb with your earth control powers) all against foes debuffed by Freezing Rain. And then further boosted by Epic and Incarnate powers and abilities. Some damage can be added earlier by using procs in some of your powers. Still the damage is plenty good once IO'd and at level 50.
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Slot your single target hold for damage.
Take your single target immobilize and slot it for damage.
Take a pool attack and slot it for damage.
Those 3 things will mostly fix your boss problems.
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Well Actually to find out I did fix it I used procs in alot of empty slots after I removed tornado from my powers. I added proc dmg to Quicksand/Earthquake/Freezing Rain/and 5 Procs to World of confusion , adding 5 pocs to WOC has given me 100% dmg chance for 98 Damage+ a sec
i was very happy to find this out tried it in a group of mobs
its just like having Blazing aura , adding Cognitive interface with WOC, if i run into a group don't use Stalagmites, I almost never get attacked , also i got 80% of the mobs on my side and just massing killing each other *** Thunderstorm and Stoner Pick them off 1 by 1.
Q: If you don't use stalagmites how do you stay alive when you run into a group being a controller
A: I use steamy mist + Stealth = 100% Stealth and let Stoner be my tank so im safe from harm, and when its all done My recharge is high enough to re summon him or ill heal him up with O2 Boost.
I currently am able to run +3 x4 Sm/Le Farm
What do you guys think ?
Remove Tornado? That is one of your best damage powers. An Earth/Storm has the ability to apply -Knockback with Stone Prison, Stone Cages or Fossilize. Tornado then applies a good amount of damage over its life. And one of the most important aspects of Tornado -- it is AUTOHIT. Even if a foe has high defense, Tornado will do its damage. Tornado's problem is that it skips around if you have multiple targets, but for taking down a single tough target, Tornado is awesome. I view Tornado as Storm's version of -Regen for AVs. Since Storm has no -Regen powers, the damage over time from Tornado makes up for the lack of -Regen. If you take out all the lower level foes around the AV, the 'Nado can focus on the AV.
Using Steamy Mist and another stealth power is great for this combo. Leading Rocky around to tank for you is a great survival and damage tool. Rather than using a power pick for Stealth, consider either (a) using Super Speed as your travel power, or (b) getting a Stealth IO to put in your existing travel power or Sprint or a prestige sprint power. That will free up a power pick for you. You can put either a Celerity (Run) Stealth or an Unbounded Leap (Jump) Stealth in Sprint if you don't want to use your travel power (or don't have one).
Personally, I strongly dislike World of Confusion. The radius is too small to make it useful. I prefer to keep my Earth/Storm at range, controlling the foes and, if needed, debuffing their ToHit with Hurricane. You can get far, far more damage out of Tornado.
To get some added damage, I like to proc-up Freezing Rain: 2 Rech, 1 Achilles Heal -Resist proc, 1 Posi Blast Energy proc, 1 Lady Grey Negative Energy proc, 1 Impeded Swiftness Lethal Damage Proc.
As for staying alive? Earth control has three fantastic AoE controls -- Stalagmites+Stone Cages, Earthquake and Volcanic Gasses. Stalagmites+Stone Cages is the best at stopping the Alpha strike, but you can handle the others, too. Just let Rocky run in to tank first for Earthquake and Volcanic Gasses to draw the aggro so the foes don't take a shot at you at first.
I agree you can increase your single target damage by adding Stone Prison slotted up for damage. You can also add a Pool attack in lower levels, but an APP blast in upper levels really helps (and you can stay at range).
Did you slot both of the +Resistance procs in Rocky? Those procs really add to his survivability because Rocky already has high Resistance. Consider 4 Expediant Reinforcement (including the +10% Resistance proc), the Sovereign Right +10% Resistance proc, and then an Acc/Dam Hami-O to cap Rocky's damage and add accuracy. You won't need to heal or recast him nearly as often.
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I find in live it's best to agree with Local Man (if we're talking trollers). He is right here 100%. Tornado is a must.
Now I don't know the numbers or the logic on what i'm about to type, but my lvl 50+3 earth/storm does this trick that cuts my KB to nearly zero.
Quicksand - Stone cages - (Attack away)
I think the quicksands -fly, -jump might be why they don't fly backward. That and the immob power.
Now to the OP.... Earth does low damage. Storm, however is a damage machine. It's damage is great and Freezing Rain debuffs damage Res.... which in the simplest terms means it adds damage. I'd never roll another Earth Troller (maybe), but Earth/Storm is a machine.
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I find in live it's best to agree with Local Man (if we're talking trollers). He is right here 100%. Tornado is a must.
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what it coes down to is my play style , and noone can fix that

I agree Local man is a smart guy, but you can only help so much, in this case im at a wall where my build can get no better , I have all i NEED and WANT .
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If you go Ageless you can get Volcanic Gasses Perma which is amazing and VG works well with hold and dmg procs yum!






Well lets talk math than, I cant seem to find a good number of DMG that tornado... So how much dmg are we talking or do u think the dmg is just good because its a force you dont need to control.
>Ask for advice on how to build for better damage.
>Told to slot/keep Tornado because it does immense damage.
>Drop tornado, ignore advice, doing far less damage.
Ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff!
>Ask for advice on how to build for better damage.
>Told to slot/keep Tornado because it does immense damage. >Drop tornado, ignore advice, doing far less damage. Ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff! |
http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/downl...59CC7F6413EEF8
Well lets talk math than, I cant seem to find a good number of DMG that tornado... So how much dmg are we talking or do u think the dmg is just good because its a force you dont need to control.
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Now Add the Lady grey proc which checks every 10 seconds...lets say that it only procs once for the two Tornadoes and waterspout...from just that proc alone you're looking at 214 points of damage. Now I'm going to add my Build's values to Tornado and Waterspout and add up all the damage...keep in mind this STILL isn't factoring in the -Res values.
817 x 2= 1,634 + 573= 2,207 pts of damage in 1 minute. Even Blizzard is jealous! (Unless you take burnout and double blizzard but that's just overkill!!!) Now mix that damage with your pets, Lightning Storm and other goodies and you're looking at a good time! Also something that will not only keep an AV's Regen at bay but it would melt them slowly into oblivion.
It happens a lot actually and it's not the first time that I've been burnt for doing so.






WoW Super Impressed, what about the build, does that look good for dmg now?
EDIT: Also if it does that much Dmg Why does it say Minor Dmg?
WoW Super Impressed, what about the build, does that look good for dmg now?
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You posted a build? I have no idea why mids tells you that it's minor damage...maybe it's because it ticks a lot and the damage is slow? OR maybe because it functions somewhat like a patch or aura. Both Hotfeet and Bonfire are labeled as "minor damage" and we know that is NOT the case...heck even Blazing Aura from Fire Armor is labeled as "minor damage lol". I think it has to do with a numerical system that I'm not familiar with...something like Arcana time or what not. You got me there lol.
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Well Tornado deals 407.1 ticks of smashing damage within 30 seconds unenhanced (on a level 50) and the number goes even higher if you consider the -Res from Freezing Rain and the Achilles Proc in either FR or Tornado itself. Sadly I still don't know how to factor in -Res so we will skip that part. Waterspout deals 271.4 ticks of smashing damage unenhanced (on a level 50). Now my toon (with ageless) can put out two Tornadoes and 1 waterspout out at the same time which is great especially if I have the critter/critters immob'd...Two Tornadoes and 1 waterspout deals 1,085.6 ticks of damage within roughly 60 seconds UNENHANCED.
Now Add the Lady grey proc which checks every 10 seconds...lets say that it only procs once for the two Tornadoes and waterspout...from just that proc alone you're looking at 214 points of damage. Now I'm going to add my Build's values to Tornado and Waterspout and add up all the damage...keep in mind this STILL isn't factoring in the -Res values. 817 x 2= 1,634 + 573= 2,207 pts of damage in 1 minute. Even Blizzard is jealous! (Unless you take burnout and double blizzard but that's just overkill!!!) Now mix that damage with your pets, Lightning Storm and other goodies and you're looking at a good time! Also something that will not only keep an AV's Regen at bay but it would melt them slowly into oblivion. It happens a lot actually and it's not the first time that I've been burnt for doing so. |
Yeah I know what ya mean and yes here it is http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/downl...59CC7F6413EEF8
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You do realize you can only have one tornado out at once, right? Casting it again kills the old tornado and starts a new one. Unless something changed in the last 2 issues...
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Sweet change. Wonder when that occurred. My stormy will like that.
Todd, I want your insps, give them nao please
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Im rocking an earth/storm tank with high rech, low dmg great holds. Debuffs are decent, a great build if anyone would like to see it, But i think i want some DMG , i hate running through Minions/Lieutenant , then taking a couple mins on the boss, my Aoe Dmg is not bad, ST sucks, thank god for stoner to beat the hell out of the bosses , and lightning storm