Leveling, Respecs, and Mids

Ok, so I read through a bunch of threads a little earlier today and one of them spurred the task of matching up the ingame leveling scheme with mids because of a possible "bug" in which mids didn't match with what we see in the game. Because I've had the issue before where I'm trying to respec and something's not quite right (usually requiring me to step lightly in the respec) I decided to do a breakdown.

Hopefully the Numbers below will help reduce the confusion that is listed above. >.<

This is what you get with both Mids and the ingame leveling system:

Level	Power/Slots	Slot Quantity

1	    Power	
2	    Power	
3	    Slots	                    2
4	    Power	
5	    Slots	                    2
6	    Power	
7	    Slots	                    2
8	    Power	
9	    Slots	                    2
10	    Power	
11	    Slots	                    2
12	    Power	
13	    Slots	                    2
14	    Power	
15	    Slots	                    2
16	    Power	
17	    Slots	                    2
18	    Power	
19	    Slots	                    2
20	    Power	
21	    Slots	                    2
22	    Power	
23	    Slots	                    2
24	    Power	
25	    Slots	                    2
26	    Power	
27	    Slots	                    2
28	    Power	
29	    Slots	                    2
30	    Power	
31	    Slots	                    3
32	    Power	
33	    Slots	                    3
34	    Slots	                    3
35	    Power	
36	    Slots	                    3
37	    Slots	                    3
38	    Power	
39	    Slots	                    3
40	    Slots	                    3
41	    Power	
42	    Slots	                    3
43	    Slots	                    3
44	    Power	
45	    Slots	                    3
46	    Slots	                    3
47	    Power	
48	    Slots	                    3
49	    Power	
50	    Slots	                    3

Level	Power/Slots	Slot Quantity
0	    Power	
1	    Power	
3	    Power	
5	    Power	
7	    Power	
9	    Power	
11	    Power	
13	    Power	
15	    Power	
17	    Power	
19	    Power	
21	    Power	
23	    Power	
25	    Power	
27	    Power	
29	    Power	
31	    Power	
34	    Power	
37	    Power	
40	    Power	
43	    Power	
46	    Power	
48	    Power	
2	    Slots	                    2
4	    Slots	                    2
6	    Slots	                    2
8	    Slots	                    2
10	    Slots	                    2
12	    Slots	                    2
14	    Slots	                    2
16	    Slots	                    2
18	    Slots	                    2
20	    Slots	                    2
22	    Slots	                    2
24	    Slots	                    2
26	    Slots	                    2
28	    Slots	                    2
30	    Slots	                    3
33	    Slots	                    6
36	    Slots	                    6
39	    Slots	                    6
42	    Slots	                    6
45	    Slots	                    6
47	    Slots	                    3
49	    Slots	                    3

Your First power pick yes, but (if I'm remembering right at this point since my test) it automatically assigns my Secondary AT's first power and wants me to pick a second power while stating 0 at the top of the screen. I understand the slot thing, but it's still potientialy confusing to a novice respec'er. Just looking at the QoL and room for improvement.

Heh I was going to comment on this after double-checking my memory about how Mids' "In-game respec helper" lists things, but then ran into an interesting bug that it appears you have already reported over on the TitanNetwork forums.

Anyway. I've always thought the Mids respec helper would be even more helpful if had an option to display things in the order you do them on a respec. i.e. list of powers in order chosen, then slots in order chosen, and then list all enhancements grouped by power. But as it is, still a huge time saver.

The in-game respec display shows the level before the power you're taking - e.g. it displays 19 when you're choosing your level 20 power. This kind-of-halfway makes sense, since you're choosing your level 20 power so you can't be level 20 already, but it is nevertheless somewhat confusing.

And yeah, when there's two levels in a row that give slots, it combines them into a single chunk of 6.

This all works out to be exactly the same as the powers/slots you get by training up while leveling, but it isn't presented very clearly.

[QUOTE=Hopeling;4211090]The in-game respec display shows the level before the power you're taking - e.g. it displays 19 when you're choosing your level 20 power. This kind-of-halfway makes sense, since you're choosing your level 20 power so you can't be level 20 already, but it is nevertheless somewhat confusing.

And yeah, when there's two levels in a row that give slots, it combines them into a single chunk of 6.

This all works out to be exactly the same as the powers/slots you get by training up while leveling, but it isn't presented very clearly.[/QUOTE]

Which I suppose is the core of the reason for this thread.

From Paragon Wiki:

"The exemplar does not lose the benefits of enhancement slots gained above that level; however, all her enhancements may provide universally reduced benefits depending both on how high her actual level is and how far down she is exemplared."

http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Malefa...r.2FMalefactor

So you're good to go there.

On a side-note, however, If you're using an enhancement with a proc, it may be deactivated by malefactoring, depending on the level of the enhancement. For this reason, some players prefer to get the lowest level of proc enhancements possible, since the level doesn't affect the numbers on the proc. (unless all this has changed recently. I haven't really kept up with changes to the game made in the last-um-year or so.

Yep, your side note is totally wrong. link

Procs work at all levels as long as you have access to the power.

Globals work as long as you are three levels below the enhancement level, or higher, even if the power is not accessible.

Quote:

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Squiddies and their crab brethren can save slots on a respec since they pick their Nova and Dwarf forms, which grant inherent powers, THEN they assign slots, so on a respec you can place your level 3 and 5 slots into Nova or Dwarf powers and not just human powers.

*tries to hold back today's headache*

So are you saying that so long as the actual power is available (per level being shifted to), then all slots for said power are available at that level?

or

Is it like powers in that say I'm shifted to lvl 10 (the point I took Hasten) I'll lose the benefit of the two slots I took at lvl 11?

All enhancements work in said power as long as your high enough for the power. aka the first one

It was a big thing when I found out. Basicly enhancement slot lvls and what lvl the stuff is in it doesn't matter other then global and set bonuses.

Good to know when using SO and Generic IO.

You always keep all your slots. The enhancements in those slots might be reduced in effectiveness, depending on what level you exemplar down to, but that will still affect every slot equally. It's never "oh, you no longer get the last three slots in that power".