New computer
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Energy_Blaze,
Posted on: 2012-04-09 19:54 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
1.) Good amount of RAM, good processor, and (I believe) quite a high end AMD video card (nVidia tends to be more stable with CoH, though)
2.) Good amount of RAM, an SSD (major plus, although not familiar with that specific model, and some SSDs can be junk), and a good processor. No dedicated graphics, so it will only run CoH well on low settings (don't even think about ultra mode) unless you also buy a video card separately.
3.) Good RAM, good processor... and none of the rest looks noteable. Also no dedicated graphics.
Of the three, only the first one would allow you to get a good experience out of CoH without buying an extra video card. Intel's HD 3000 graphics (might be 2000! 
) blow away every previous Intel graphics solution... but that still leaves Intel at the bottom of the heap because their previous stuff sucked so badly.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
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Let's break the three kits down.
Case - All three use the same case which only has one rear fan, but spots for a lot more fans.
Optical Drive - All three use the same and it's reasonable.
Motherboard - A good basic Z68 based motherboard however the 2nd x16 slot is really x4. Useable somewhat for AMD Crossfire X but totally not compatible with nVidia SLi.
CPU - First two use the i5-2500K while the third uses the i7-2600K. The 2600K costs a lot more but is only 100MHz faster but does have hyperthreading so it appears to have 8 cores. Great if you are squeezing out performance when it comes to compressing video or other highly multi-threaded app but not a lot more bang when it comes to gaming.
Memory - The first two kits use DDR3-1333 while the third uses DDR3-1600. Patriot is a lesser well known memory company when compared to Corsair but it's still good memory. DDR3-1600 is only going to be 1-3% faster than DDR3-1333 in actual apps.
Drive - The first and third kit use a conventional 7200RPM SATA II 1TB hard drive from Seagate while the second kit uses a 120 GB SATA III SSD from Patriot. Other than the obvious size differences the SSD will give you a much better storage experience shaving 10s of seconds off of boot and load times. The Patriot Pyro does get good reviews so it's not like Tiger is sticking you with some dog of an SSD.
Video card - Only the first kit includes one which makes it the only real gamer kit here. The HD 6870 is a reasonable video card with performance that falls in between the GTX 560 and 560Ti.
Power Supply - This is where all three kits fall on their swords. The first kit includes a PSU that I would swap out as soon as I can. Diablotek has a bad reputation. The other two kits use the Ultra LPS series of PSUs which have a better but hardly stellar reputation. Ultra is TigerDirect's own brand so it doesn't surprise me they include it in these kits but kit one's inclusion of a DiabloTek is a crime. It's like getting a vacation package that includes a non-stop flight on a nice airline, 5 nights in a nice hotel and a Yugo as your car rental.
So the first kit is a complete gaming system but includes a PSU I would expect to go POOF within a year.
The second and third kits are missing a video card, which is fine if you hate AMD video cards. The second has a fast SSD but limited storage while the third kit has a faster CPU and memory but for a premium price but rather limited performance gains for gaming.
Father Xmas - Level 50 Ice/Ice Tanker - Victory
$725 and $1350 parts lists --- My guide to computer components
Tempus unum hominem manet
Okay, was having issues with my NoScript.
So Father scooped me. I pretty much agree with every syllable of his post.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Let's break the three kits down.
Case - All three use the same case which only has one rear fan, but spots for a lot more fans. Optical Drive - All three use the same and it's reasonable. Motherboard - A good basic Z68 based motherboard however the 2nd x16 slot is really x4. Useable somewhat for AMD Crossfire X but totally not compatible with nVidia SLi. CPU - First two use the i5-2500K while the third uses the i7-2600K. The 2600K costs a lot more but is only 100MHz faster but does have hyperthreading so it appears to have 8 cores. Great if you are squeezing out performance when it comes to compressing video or other highly multi-threaded app but not a lot more bang when it comes to gaming. Memory - The first two kits use DDR3-1333 while the third uses DDR3-1600. Patriot is a lesser well known memory company when compared to Corsair but it's still good memory. DDR3-1600 is only going to be 1-3% faster than DDR3-1333 in actual apps. Drive - The first and third kit use a conventional 7200RPM SATA II 1TB hard drive from Seagate while the second kit uses a 120 GB SATA III SSD from Patriot. Other than the obvious size differences the SSD will give you a much better storage experience shaving 10s of seconds off of boot and load times. The Patriot Pyro does get good reviews so it's not like Tiger is sticking you with some dog of an SSD. Video card - Only the first kit includes one which makes it the only real gamer kit here. The HD 6870 is a reasonable video card with performance that falls in between the GTX 560 and 560Ti. Power Supply - This is where all three kits fall on their swords. The first kit includes a PSU that I would swap out as soon as I can. Diablotek has a bad reputation. The other two kits use the Ultra LPS series of PSUs which have a better but hardly stellar reputation. Ultra is TigerDirect's own brand so it doesn't surprise me they include it in these kits but kit one's inclusion of a DiabloTek is a crime. It's like getting a vacation package that includes a non-stop flight on a nice airline, 5 nights in a nice hotel and a Yugo as your car rental. So the first kit is a complete gaming system but includes a PSU I would expect to go POOF within a year. The second and third kits are missing a video card, which is fine if you hate AMD video cards. The second has a fast SSD but limited storage while the third kit has a faster CPU and memory but for a premium price but rather limited performance gains for gaming. |
My advice: purchase the components you want and build your own. I just finished assembling my new powerhouse PC and it is a blast
All graphics settings on Ultra Mode, runs smooth as silk.
Okay, I'm back again. This time I decided to attempt a build. How's this look?
Case:
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119233
HDD:
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148697
BYTECC Model SATA-118C 18" Serial ATA-150/300 Cable w/Locking Latch
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812270093
Graphics Card:
EVGA 012-P3-2078-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores (Fermi) Classified Ultra 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130758
Power Supply:
Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371016
RAM:
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145345
Motherboard:
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157271
CPU:
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115072
Heatsink:
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103065
Okay so that's what I'm thinking of getting parts wise. I am also going to be purchasing Windows 7(64 bit).
I'll be mostly using this for CoH. Possibly multi-boxing as well as running multiple programs.
I would like to overclock this but I am a little nervous about how far I will be able to push that. Also my PSU kind of worries me on this, because I am not sure if it will be powerful enough as I don't have a ton of experience in this building. I did use some PSU calculators and it looks like it will work in practice, but if anyone who could answer this will, I'd appreciate it.
Also curious as to how this will do running ultramode, and if you notice any serious problems with this build. Also I believe it will be, but everything here will be compatible if I'm not mistaken, is this correct? Thanks for the time!
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Originally Posted by Crysys
Peacebringers at least got a recent overhaul. They moved up from sucktastic to craptacular.
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Okay, if you're overclocking the 550 isn't going to cut it. With a couple case fans, plus a CPU cooler with 1-2 120mm fans on it, you're looking at right around 500-540W.|
Originally Posted by Energy_Blaze
I would like to overclock this but I am a little nervous about how far I will be able to push that. Also my PSU kind of worries me on this, because I am not sure if it will be powerful enough as I don't have a ton of experience in this building. I did use some PSU calculators and it looks like it will work in practice, but if anyone who could answer this will, I'd appreciate it.
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You you simply "peaking" to that on occasion, I'd say no biggie.
But this is going to be a "for sustained periods" situation.
If you can stretch the budget a bit more maybe look at:
This Cooler Master unit.
Or this Antec unit.
Also curious as to how this will do running ultramode, and if you notice any serious problems with this build. Also I believe it will be, but everything here will be compatible if I'm not mistaken, is this correct? Thanks for the time![/QUOTE]
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Is one better than the other, I assume the Cooler Master is a little better, but not sure. I see the Antec has higher wattage though.
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
If you can stretch the budget a bit more maybe look at: This Cooler Master unit. Or this Antec unit. |
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Originally Posted by Crysys
Peacebringers at least got a recent overhaul. They moved up from sucktastic to craptacular.
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The CM is a nice unit and modular. So if you don't happen to need certain cables, you just disconnect them. It cuts down on cable clutter.|
Originally Posted by Energy_Blaze
Is one better than the other, I assume the Cooler Master is a little better, but not sure. I see the Antec has higher wattage though.
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The Antec has a little more "head room" for later upgrades.
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Thanks a ton!
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Originally Posted by Crysys
Peacebringers at least got a recent overhaul. They moved up from sucktastic to craptacular.
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Hey guys, thinking of getting a new computer and kind of unsure what to get. I mostly want it for CoH. What do you guys think of these?
1. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...erReviewsBlock
2. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...1&Sku=B69-1400
3. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...8&Sku=B69-1403
Any specific advantages, one would have over the other?