Dreading the new Dark Shadows movie
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Aneko,
Posted on: 2012-03-28 19:11 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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Originally Posted by Aneko
Fortunately there are two official movies, House of Dark Shadows and Night of Dark Shadows.
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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
Thanks for the tip
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'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
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'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.
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My apologies for the oversight - you have the claim to the first citation in this thread. (To give Hyperstrike his due, he did describe the first one to some extent to distinguish it from my criticisms about the show.) In any case, the Web naturally has a trivia-filled site devoted to the franchise. Suffice to say, the Burton-Depp production sticks out from all the other ones.|
Originally Posted by Aneko
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By the way, I also watched a bit of the 1991 TV remake (starring a very young Joseph Gordon-Levitt). It was dreadful, and not in a good penny-dreadful way.
It has Eva Green. I'm in.
I watched it in the 60s and 70s (when I was 7-9) because I didn't like Mom's General Hospital or One Life to Live. I mean this show had monsters which were cool.
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And yes, camp is intentional. I know that the cynical dark nature attitudes of today, when shined on the TV shows of past eras makes their concepts seemingly incredulous. You had Police who cared about the general public and treated everyone fairly, you had Doctors who cared about all their patients as individuals and you had lawyers who were willing to put their reputations on the line for their clients. It's obvious that the shows creators must be trying for under the radar satire so lets bring it above board 30 years later when we make the movie.
We all know that really doesn't happen. 
Back then, TV show budgets were tiny. Do you know why we have so many damn "reality" shows today? Because compared to scripted dramas, they are relatively cheap to make. Why? Because we want our scripted dramas to be nearly the same quality as movies, same quality sets, effects, general production values, etc. We want car chases and aliens and grandiose outdoor sets. And with the advent of HDTV, they need to be even higher quality than what could be passed off in the days of 704x480 interlaced. You can't build it out of rough plywood with a few coats of paint.
So yes we declare old or foreign TV as "campy" since we can tell the sets are cardboard and we can see the wires holding up the cape. It wasn't intentional, it's just what they could do with the budget.
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I caught it on PBS during the mid-80s when my best friend's mother asked me to audiotape the theme for their Halloween display. I got hooked by one scene in the middle of the episode where Barnabas, in an act of pure will and conscience, resisted the urge to bite the object of his desire as she slept and faded away from her room leaving her unharmed. Jonathan Frid was freaking awesome. When I heard that Tim Burton had been brought on board for this movie, I got worried. This news just tells me that I was right to be worried.|
Originally Posted by Father Xmas
I watched it in the 60s and 70s (when I was 7-9) because I didn't like Mom's General Hospital or One Life to Live. I mean this show had monsters which were cool.
[rant] And yes, camp is intentional. I know that the cynical dark nature attitudes of today, when shined on the TV shows of past eras makes their concepts seemingly incredulous. You had Police who cared about the general public and treated everyone fairly, you had Doctors who cared about all their patients as individuals and you had lawyers who were willing to put their reputations on the line for their clients. It's obvious that the shows creators must be trying for under the radar satire so lets bring it above board 30 years later when we make the movie. We all know that really doesn't happen. Back then, TV show budgets were tiny. Do you know why we have so many damn "reality" shows today? Because compared to scripted dramas, they are relatively cheap to make. Why? Because we want our scripted dramas to be nearly the same quality as movies, same quality sets, effects, general production values, etc. We want car chases and aliens and grandiose outdoor sets. And with the advent of HDTV, they need to be even higher quality than what could be passed off in the days of 704x480 interlaced. You can't build it out of rough plywood with a few coats of paint. So yes we declare old or foreign TV as "campy" since we can tell the sets are cardboard and we can see the wires holding up the cape. It wasn't intentional, it's just what they could do with the budget. [/rant] |
Look, camp can be fun when it's done right. Cases in point, Buckaroo Banzai and the Adam West Batman. Dark Shadows? No, dude. Whatever Burton has managed to throw up on the screen (pun absolutely intended) it can't honestly call itself Dark Shadows.
Your rant? I agree so very, VERY much. I find cynicism to be a repugnant, ethically-and-morally bankrupt attitude that I loathe utterly. The sad thing is that it seems to be the prevalent attitude of our current age. Bah! Disgusting!
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I have not seen the original '60s version of Dark Shadows, but I rather enjoyed the 1990 version.