Help my Dark/Dark/Leviathan Troller!


Biscuits_EU

 

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Ran my dark/dark/leviathan troller vs a pylon. Average of 6mins for ~234 dps. Not great.

Dark/dark troller is safe and helpful on teams, but boy does the damage seem weak. I went Leviathan for cones goodness of Fearsome, Living Shadows (4 procs!), and Bile Spray. Plus extra pets in Water Spout and Coralax to run alongside Haunts, Fluffy, and Barky. But the dmg is weak. Against +3s the procs hit for like 45 and the pets do 50-80 dmg per hit. Ack!

Also seems to have accuracy probs vs +3s and higher.

Open to ideas because I don't want to strip him after all the work leveling and IO-ing.


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If you want more damage, you could go fire mastery for fireblast and fireball. Also, put an acc/dam HO + dam IO on Dark Grasp. You have no single target damage skill.

Also, a bit more recharge wouldnt hurt. You have 15s of Hasten downtime. Without Hasten, Living Shadows has a 4.5s recharge. Thats a loong time. Suggestion for that:
- Slot Shadow field for recharge (Basilisk or Unbreakable). You are not getting much from procs in a power that gets fired once every 75s
- TG can go with 3 (the 4th bonus is not great), so you can 3slot hasten
- you have room for more Lotg 7.5 (Maneuvers, Fade)

Another tip, if you have SS because you like it or concept, then forget what im saying, but if you want invis, you can put the celerity proc in Sprint. Sprint+proc+shadowfall = full invis

Hope this helps


 

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Originally Posted by Erhnam View Post
- Slot Shadow field for recharge (Basilisk or Unbreakable). You are not getting much from procs in a power that gets fired once every 75s
Doesn't it have a chance to fire when it pulses, too? As I'm sure my +2 mag proc fires at the start, and again after a while.


 

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Originally Posted by Biscuits_EU View Post
Doesn't it have a chance to fire when it pulses, too? As I'm sure my +2 mag proc fires at the start, and again after a while.
This is true, and the Chance to Hold is one I like to slot here as it gives 2 extra chances to go off at the start to help lock down troublesome bosses.

Damage ones are dirt in it though and not worth it IMO.


 

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Yes, the lockdown proc is very useful, sorry I didnt say that Is just the damage procs that dont seem worth to me


 

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Originally Posted by Erhnam View Post
If you want more damage, you could go fire mastery for fireblast and fireball. Also, put an acc/dam HO + dam IO on Dark Grasp. You have no single target damage skill.

Also, a bit more recharge wouldnt hurt. You have 15s of Hasten downtime. Without Hasten, Living Shadows has a 4.5s recharge. Thats a loong time. Suggestion for that:
- Slot Shadow field for recharge (Basilisk or Unbreakable). You are not getting much from procs in a power that gets fired once every 75s
- TG can go with 3 (the 4th bonus is not great), so you can 3slot hasten
- you have room for more Lotg 7.5 (Maneuvers, Fade)

Another tip, if you have SS because you like it or concept, then forget what im saying, but if you want invis, you can put the celerity proc in Sprint. Sprint+proc+shadowfall = full invis

Hope this helps
Thanks. I thought Bile Spray / Water Spout / Coralax would be at least equivalent damage, especially for single target, to Fire Ball / Fire Blast. Why do you think giving them up for Fire Ball / Blast would be better?

I find I barely use Dark Grasp ... is it really worth slotting for damage?

Good points on LotG and maybe changing the shadow field slotting. I thought damage procs in shadow field would do more damage. Isn't it bugged right now with store-bought procs and firing all the time?


 

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Originally Posted by Granite Agent View Post
Thanks. I thought Bile Spray / Water Spout / Coralax would be at least equivalent damage, especially for single target, to Fire Ball / Fire Blast. Why do you think giving them up for Fire Ball / Blast would be better?

I find I barely use Dark Grasp ... is it really worth slotting for damage?

Good points on LotG and maybe changing the shadow field slotting. I thought damage procs in shadow field would do more damage. Isn't it bugged right now with store-bought procs and firing all the time?
Never tested LEviathan. I can only tell you that im obliterating mobs with fire :P

Dark Grasp does good damage if slotted for it. Something around 80% of Fireblast. My DG has 4xbasilisk + Hami Acc/Dam + Dam IO, while fireblast 5xdecimation. Imo is quite good for a ST enviroment, you can alternate DG+blast with good recharge (or cast anything else like TG so you have no pause)


 

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Originally Posted by Granite Agent View Post
Thanks. I thought Bile Spray / Water Spout / Coralax would be at least equivalent damage, especially for single target, to Fire Ball / Fire Blast. Why do you think giving them up for Fire Ball / Blast would be better?

I find I barely use Dark Grasp ... is it really worth slotting for damage?

Good points on LotG and maybe changing the shadow field slotting. I thought damage procs in shadow field would do more damage. Isn't it bugged right now with store-bought procs and firing all the time?
Unknown, in answer to your bug question.

I have mine slotted with a Store Bought Lockdown and when I drop it I get loads of electricity cages alright, but it's hard to know quite what it is doing and if that is expected behaviour.