Movie Deathmatch: The Hunger Games vs. Battle Royale
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Posted on: 2012-03-23 07:50 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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They were hoping that by doing that we wouldn't notice the horrible scripts.
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Originally Posted by Dark One
Obviously, in regards to shaky cam. Stargate: Universe used that combined with horribly darkened sets to pretty much hide everything.
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My guess, by not doing so made the awkwardness of the last scene with Katniss looking at Gale more apparent. They really didn't have to spell it out to the audience, I've never read the book and even I caught that it was just a tactical manuever by Katniss.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
I was actually disappointed that they didn't show Peeta being crushed when Katniss tells him that it was all an act during the games. I found that the second most emotional scene in the novel, Rue's death being the first.
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I'm glad that people who didn't read the book can see that it was a ruse, but the point is hammered home more in the novel.|
Originally Posted by Innovator
My guess, by not doing so made the awkwardness of the last scene with Katniss looking at Gale more apparent. They really didn't have to spell it out to the audience, I've never read the book and even I caught that it was just a tactical manuever by Katniss.
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Katniss isn't interested in *any* relationship at the outset. Her first and only priority is caring for her family (mostly Prim), and she doesn't want to bring children into the messed up world of Panem.
Her feelings for Peeta are complicated because he was the one who gave her hope when she was about to give up, but he's not a romantic interest.
Gale is the best friend Katniss has, but she definitely doesn't see him as a potential love interest either.
I just hope that they don't make Peeta's anger in the second film about Katniss making goo goo eyes at Gale instead of the fact that she played him like a fiddle in the arena.
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I personally am glad they didn't do that. I hate it when a movie treats its audience as being stupid. They already alluded to what Katniss was up to in the scenes shortly before, there was really no need to hammer it home.
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Originally Posted by Mental_Giant
I'm glad that people who didn't read the book can see that it was a ruse, but the point is hammered home more in the novel.
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Not letting Peeta in on the manipulation changes a lot of things. He was into it, for obvious reasons. Actually, keeping Peeta in the dark causes a lot of problems later on too... he stays getting lied to!|
Originally Posted by Innovator
I personally am glad they didn't do that. I hate it when a movie treats its audience as being stupid. They already alluded to what Katniss was up to in the scenes shortly before, there was really no need to hammer it home.
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Also, the book is told from Katniss' point of view, so we know everything about how she feels about Peeta and Gale. The movie is maybe a little too subtle on this point.
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As the Chinese say, Tomorrow brings tommorow. They can always get into that in the sequal, and leaves the viewers (who haven't read the books) wondering how she is going to deal with this situation...and possibily Team Peeta and Team Gale memoriabilia. |
Originally Posted by Mental_Giant
Not letting Peeta in on the manipulation changes a lot of things. He was into it, for obvious reasons. Actually, keeping Peeta in the dark causes a lot of problems later on too... he stays getting lied to!
Also, the book is told from Katniss' point of view, so we know everything about how she feels about Peeta and Gale. The movie is maybe a little too subtle on this point. |
Spoilers ahead, movie and novel.
In the novel Haymitch pounded into them before Peeta's confession on stage to always be seen side by side, holding hands if possible. The movie made it more like most of it was Peeta's doing with Haymitch jumping on the idea later.
The Katniss falling for Peeta while in the cave nursing him back to health felt too rushed in the movie. Also I'm wondering if the change from a syringe to a balm for the medicine to save Peeta was due to the MPAA ratings board (kids injecting other kids is bad).
In the book, Peeta barely survived, eventually losing his injured leg and had it replaced with an artificial one. It was a scene in the book when Peeta was rushed to surgery and as Katniss was taken away it showed how much Katniss had grown attached to Peeta. Her rejection of him on the way home in the novel seemed more like her trying to put the games behind her and trying to convince herself that her feelings for him were of course fake, nothing more. It still crushed Peeta, changing the entire dynamic between them in the last 10 pages.
Lastly the amount of blood is really trivial in the film. Anyone who ever received a cut to the scalp knows how bad it can look and how bloody it can be. In the movie Katniss's scalp cut had less blood than your average non anime nose bleed. In the book it flowed enough to blind her in one eye until she was able to bandage it (it reopened later along with Peeta's leg wound during the final battle).
They skipped a whole number of aliments during her time alone including the initial dehydration, the lose of hearing in one ear and they seriously toned down the hallucinations from the wasp poison (which would have easily made it an R). And the mutant wolf attack at the end was quite different from the novel (novel had a very disturbing twist with the mutts).
I get the reasons for some of these changes. First, it had to be a PG-13 and sadly that eliminates some content altogether (nudity) and of course quite a bit of violence in a movie about teenage trial by combat. Other changes because we couldn't listen into Katniss's thoughts as she figured out the supplies were mined so they had to make it obvious to the movie goer that there were mines around the supplies.
Second, as I pointed out earlier that this movie made more money in one weekend than any of Lionsgate's previous films in their entire run. Therefore it's not surprising that the budget was quite low for a blockbuster, under $100 million. This means they really couldn't go wild with the digital effects. The Capital was mostly digital matte. They only had few internal/external sets other than filming in the forest. In the book the interviews were done on a stage large enough to have all 24 tributes on stage at once, allowing for a cut to Katness for all to see when Peeta did his confession. Little things like that showed how frugal they were with the budget.
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Still haven't seen it but I'm glad they changed the wolves. That part of the book I didn't find so much disturbing as mind numbingly stupid.
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