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iirc 125% or more global rech is enough for perma dom without hasten
Ok cool, so I am over by a bunch. I didn't know if the hold power slots would be best used elsewhere.
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Thinking I could go with 4 slots in the holds, drop grant invis, and pick up Midnight Grasp with a Crushing Impact set - how about that?
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since you still have hasten make sure that its toggled off so you can see your rech without it, relying on hasten for perma dom is not very reliable
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Errr with Hasten I am at 148%.
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
since you still have hasten make sure that its toggled off so you can see your rech without it, relying on hasten for perma dom is not very reliable
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It actually is. I had a build with about 95% recharge without Hasten and it had about 8-10 seconds of downtime on Domination, without having hasten up all the time.|
Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
since you still have hasten make sure that its toggled off so you can see your rech without it, relying on hasten for perma dom is not very reliable
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It's only unreliable if hasten+other recharge bonuses get you permadom by only a small margin.
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So do I have enough then? What do you think? What should I change?
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Originally Posted by Machariel
It actually is. I had a build with about 95% recharge without Hasten and it had about 8-10 seconds of downtime on Domination, without having hasten up all the time.
It's only unreliable if hasten+other recharge bonuses get you permadom by only a small margin. |
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Have you read this guide to perma-dom? http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=120644
Basically, if you have Hasten slotted for 95% recharge, and 70% global recharge with Hasten TURNED OFF, then you will just barely be perma-dom. More than 95% in Hasten or more than 70% global gives you a larger margin of error to click Hasten or Dom at the right time.
I'm currently running with about 80% global and 98% slotted in Hasten, and have no problems keeping Dom up unless I get hit with slows.
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I don't have it in Mids right now, but I can tell you what powers I have and what sets.|
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At level 40, I had perma-dom with the following powers slotted with the named set, usually just enough pieces for the recharge bonus and no more. I've also listed the recharge bonus for each This is copied out of the spreadhseet I created to track it. Also, note that I ONLY have sets listed for the powers I got recharge from. Other powers are slotted to personal taste but aren't getting recharge bonuses.
Dark Grasp (hold) Basilisk 7.5
Dark Blast (st range) - nothing
Smite (st melee) Crushing Impact 5
Gloom (st ranged) Decimation 6.25
Possess (st confuse) 1 acc
Fearsome Stare (fear, -to-hit) Cloud Senses 6.25
Night Fall (cone) Positron's Blast 6.25
Hasten 3 Recharge Ios
Super Speed
Gather Shadows 1 rech
Haunt (pet, rech int pet) Expedient Reinforcement 6.25
Engulfing Darkness (pbaoe) Obliteration 5
Heart of Darkness (Stun) Dom ATO 8.75
Combat Jumping LoTG, Kistmet +acc 7.5
Shadow Field (hold) Basilisk 7.5
Life Drain (st range dmg/heal) - frankenslotted
Stealth LoTG 7.5
Umbra Beast (pet/rech int pet) - not much slotted at 40
Fireball - I might have put Posi's Blast here?
Midnight Grasp (st dmg/immob) - I think I put another Crushing Impact here? Not sure.
I leveled this build to 50, picking up Rain of Fire, Maneuvers (for another 7.5), Rise of the Phoenix, and Fire Shield. I'm planning to spec out a level 50 build in Mids in the next few days that will keep most of my recharge but also get me some good ranged defense. I'll post that when it's ready.
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I left out super jump, vengeance and tactics, but the builds look simliar. I don't know which direction you were going with your build, as some of the slotting looks all over the place. Based on the value of some of the stuff you used, my build doesn't seem any more outrageous than yours should be in price. Probably 600 mil-1 billion along with the LotG recharges. I also have the dominator ATO set with catalysts for 10% instead of 8, but that's not a huge jump. My goal was to simply have permadom as soon as possible. My enhancements are as close to 30 as they can be and all my recharge except 5% is good down to level 30. I also squeezed in just a little ranged defense and other stuff, but that is definitely not my primary goal.|
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Ultimate Illusionist: Level 50 Magic Dominator
Primary Power Set: Darkness Control
Secondary Power Set: Dark Assault
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Fire Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Dark Grasp
- (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold
- (3) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
- (3) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold
- (5) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (A) Empty
- (A) Superior Ascendency of the Dominator - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized
- (5) Superior Ascendency of the Dominator - Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Recharge
- (7) Superior Ascendency of the Dominator - Endurance/Recharge
- (7) Superior Ascendency of the Dominator - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Endurance
- (9) Superior Ascendency of the Dominator - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Endurance/Recharge
- (9) Superior Ascendency of the Dominator - Recharge/Chance for +Damage
- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
- (11) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (11) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
- (13) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (13) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage
- (15) Decimation - Damage/Endurance
- (15) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (17) Decimation - Damage/Recharge
- (17) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Accuracy IO
- (A) Unspeakable Terror - Accuracy/Recharge
- (19) Unspeakable Terror - Accuracy/Fear/Recharge
- (19) Unspeakable Terror - Accuracy/Endurance
- (21) Unspeakable Terror - Endurance/Fear
- (21) Unspeakable Terror - Fear/Range
- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
- (48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
- (50) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
- (50) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (50) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
- (A) Stupefy - Accuracy/Recharge
- (23) Stupefy - Endurance/Stun
- (23) Stupefy - Accuracy/Endurance
- (25) Stupefy - Stun/Range
- (25) Stupefy - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
- (27) Stupefy - Chance of Knockback
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (48) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Unspeakable Terror - Accuracy/Recharge
- (27) Unspeakable Terror - Endurance/Fear
- (29) Unspeakable Terror - Accuracy/Endurance
- (29) Unspeakable Terror - Fear/Range
- (31) Unspeakable Terror - Accuracy/Fear/Recharge
- (A) Obliteration - Damage
- (31) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
- (31) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (33) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
- (33) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (33) Recharge Reduction IO
- (34) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (34) Karma - Knockback Protection
- (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold
- (34) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
- (36) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold
- (36) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (36) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold
- (A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage
- (37) Decimation - Damage/Endurance
- (37) Decimation - Damage/Recharge
- (37) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
- (39) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Call to Arms - Accuracy/Recharge
- (39) Call to Arms - Accuracy/Damage
- (39) Call to Arms - Damage/Endurance
- (40) Call to Arms - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (40) Damage Increase IO
- (40) Sovereign Right - Resistance Bonus
- (A) Accuracy IO
- (42) Damage Increase IO
- (42) Damage Increase IO
- (42) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
- (43) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (43) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
- (43) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (45) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Accuracy IO
- (45) Damage Increase IO
- (45) Damage Increase IO
- (46) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 2: Swift
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (46) Endurance Modification IO
- (46) Endurance Modification IO
- (48) Endurance Modification IO
- (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
- (A) Celerity - +Stealth
- (A) Empty
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 7% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 7% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 7% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 7% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 7% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 7% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 7% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 7% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 3% Defense(Melee)
- 3% Defense(Smashing)
- 3% Defense(Lethal)
- 3% Defense(Fire)
- 3% Defense(Cold)
- 12.06% Defense(Energy)
- 12.06% Defense(Negative)
- 3% Defense(Psionic)
- 13.63% Defense(Ranged)
- 3% Defense(AoE)
- 4.5% Max End
- 4% Enhancement(Confused)
- 4% Enhancement(Held)
- 111.3% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 7% Enhancement(Stun)
- 8% Enhancement(Immobilize)
- 47% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 8% Enhancement(Sleep)
- 8.8% Enhancement(Terrorized)
- 80.12 HP (7.88%) HitPoints
- Knockback (Mag -4)
- Knockup (Mag -4)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 9.9%
- MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
- 11.5% (0.19 End/sec) Recovery
- 10% Resistance(Smashing)
- 10% Resistance(Lethal)
- 11.58% Resistance(Fire)
- 11.58% Resistance(Cold)
- 10% Resistance(Energy)
- 15% Resistance(Negative)
- 10% Resistance(Toxic)
- 10% Resistance(Psionic)
- 3% XPDebtProtection
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Hmm yeah, I could see the Decimation sets adding some rech and still being pretty effective. I don't really care about being exemped as I doubt I will do it very much if ever. I am actually finding that endurance is not an issue at all - I was considering tossing a 4th slot in stamina for the proc but I might not need it.
I also intentionally left the kb out of HoD and put another rech in there - I think that's the way to go. I might move the acc out of fearsome and put another rech on shadow field also.
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i still need to make a build for my dark dark dom, however the other 2 doms i have perma atm have around 210% rech with hasten up (i mostly use hasten as a "cushion" in case of -rech debuffs)
Actually does Fearsome take the ATOs? I could see 6 slotting that with it because I use it constantly.
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Updated and edited in - I am 48 but the build that is now listed is what I currently have and have planned when I hit 50.
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Yes, it does...
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Originally Posted by JayboH
Actually does Fearsome take the ATOs? I could see 6 slotting that with it because I use it constantly.
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Yeah I just bought a full set even though I don't have Fearsome 6 slotted yet - not until 50 anyway.|
Originally Posted by Wyatt_Earp
Yes, it does...
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...by the way, how long does the +damage boost last from the ATO set?
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The slotting of the two holds with basilisks would give you another 15% recharge.
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Updated and edited in - I am 48 but the build that is now listed is what I currently have and have planned when I hit 50.
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How is the acc/hold numbers on those though?
I just hit 50, btw.
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i know you said you didnt want purps but for perspective heres the build i plan on using for my dark dark guy
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Dark grasp is at 1.90 acc(1.20 base) and 28.34s(17.88s)/Dom--42.50s(26.82s) duration with 30 acc/rech, 29 rech/hold, 30 acc/rech/hold/end, and 30 acc/hold. Shadow Field is at 1.59 acc(1.00 base) and chance for hold for 1 m 16s(it's all screwy looking) with the same slotting. I was only mentioning that though, because you have a rediculous accuracy bonus that would cover the spread anyway, and the recharge is already gonna be high. If anything actually needs to be held longer, you're about to die. I was looking at your build more, and that was the slotting that was throwing me. I know why you did it, but couldn't understand why accuracy would be a concern with your huge bonus.
Acc is an issue for me because of how the set works - that is, it's odd.
You kinda have to lead with Fear to run in and use Heart, then jump back to use Living. If anything gets missed with the fear, I get hit, and have to hit everything with the single target hold and possess as quick as possible. The whole feel of the set will change once the beast attacks on it's own but anyways that's why I am kinda big on acc/to-hit.
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I fear, then immoblize. If stuff is acting up, then I use shadow field. I rarely ever use heart and rarely ever get hit(hard). I use living shadows to lay on the -to hit. I have .56 acc bonus and rarely miss more than 2 in a group. The odds of it being someone who can hurt me are even slimmer. I have the boss/LT targeted and throw a hold, confuse, or the ghosts at them. Being perma, one of those is gonna hit, or recharge before he gets to me. And if that isn't recharged, living shadows is. What kind of groups are you gonna be facing with this build? I don't know if you discussed that above.
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Originally Posted by JayboH
Acc is an issue for me because of how the set works - that is, it's odd.
You kinda have to lead with Fear to run in and use Heart, then jump back to use Living. If anything gets missed with the fear, I get hit, and have to hit everything with the single target hold and possess as quick as possible. The whole feel of the set will change once the beast attacks on it's own but anyways that's why I am kinda big on acc/to-hit. |
I don't know how much global recharge is needed for permadom, and would like general feedback as well - looking for something that does not require purples.
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Barbie Black: Level 50 Magic Dominator
Primary Power Set: Darkness Control
Secondary Power Set: Dark Assault
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Fire Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Dark Grasp
- (A) Essence of Curare - Accuracy/Hold: Level 50
- (3) Essence of Curare - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge: Level 50
- (3) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge: Level 50
- (5) Lockdown - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold: Level 50
Level 1: Dark Blast- (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
Level 2: Living Shadows- (A) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50
- (7) Trap of the Hunter - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50
Level 4: Gloom- (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (5) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (23) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (37) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (48) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
Level 6: Possess- (A) Malaise's Illusions - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (7) Malaise's Illusions - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50
Level 8: Fearsome Stare- (A) Ascendency of the Dominator - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized: Level 50
- (9) Ascendency of the Dominator - Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Recharge: Level 50
- (9) Ascendency of the Dominator - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (11) Ascendency of the Dominator - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Endurance: Level 50
- (15) Ascendency of the Dominator - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (50) Ascendency of the Dominator - Recharge/Chance for +Damage: Level 50
Level 10: Night Fall- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (11) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (23) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (37) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range: Level 50
- (46) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
Level 12: Heart of Darkness- (A) Stupefy - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (13) Stupefy - Endurance/Stun: Level 50
- (13) Stupefy - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50
- (15) Stupefy - Stun/Range: Level 50
- (21) Stupefy - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge: Level 50
- (50) Rope A Dope - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
Level 14: Super Jump- (A) Jumping IO: Level 50
Level 16: Gather Shadows- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 18: Haunt- (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (19) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (19) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (21) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (25) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (37) Recharge Reduction
Level 20: Engulfing Darkness- (A) Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
- (25) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (40) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (40) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (43) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
Level 22: Combat Jumping- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
Level 24: Maneuvers- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
Level 26: Shadow Field- (A) Essence of Curare - Accuracy/Hold: Level 50
- (27) Essence of Curare - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge: Level 50
- (27) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge: Level 50
- (29) Lockdown - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold: Level 50
- (48) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 28: Life Drain- (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (29) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (34) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (43) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (46) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
Level 30: Tactics- (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff: Level 50
- (31) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 50
- (31) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (31) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (34) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance: Level 50
Level 32: Umbra Beast- (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (34) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
- (36) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets: Level 50
Level 35: Hasten- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (36) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (36) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 38: Midnight Grasp- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (39) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (39) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (39) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (40) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
Level 41: Fire Ball- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range: Level 50
- (43) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (50) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 44: Rain of Fire- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (45) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (45) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range: Level 50
- (46) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (48) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 47: Stealth- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
Level 49: Vengeance- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
------------Level 2: Swift
- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 2: Health- (A) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 40
Level 2: Hurdle- (A) Jumping IO: Level 50
Level 2: Stamina- (A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (17) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (17) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
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