Dark/Dark permadom help please


Blue_Fenix

 

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The instant you immobilize after fear, every single enemy should be shooting at you. This is my point - you need to use fear to get into Heart range. I am not one of those players who thinks defense softcap is everything because I need to be a god when solo and only use +4x8 settings.

I think that's why I find it odd - using immob before Heart means every enemy is going to hit me.


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Originally Posted by JayboH View Post
I think that's why I find it odd - using immob before Heart means every enemy is going to hit me.
Every enemy is going to TRY to hit you. Fearsome Stare does a lot of -to-hit debuff. That's why I slot it with Cloud Senses.

Also, I don't use the immobilze - don't even have it in my build. I Fearsome Stare, then Stun or Shadow Field before starting on my AoE (Rain of Fire, Fireball, and Engulfing Darkness).


 

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I took the immob mostly because of RoF, in case they try to run or wander out of it while stunned.

...but yeah I do what you do Blue. I have already spent near 800 mil on the build that is now in the 2nd post, so I think I will stick with what I have, then switch to the Basilisks and eventually get to purples. I am undecided on the Decimation - I already have permadom and have more attacks than I even use with the recharge I have as it is.

By the way, what kind of -tohit do you get out of Fearsome by using Cloud Senses?

EDIT: nvm, I see you get 16%~ -tohit. I wanted to know how long the +damage lasts for the ATO, anyone know?


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In my planned dark/dark build, I was figuring to put 5 of the ATOs into Heart of Darkness, but I want the Proc in Midnight Grasp, which it will fit into because MG has an immob on it. The Proc buff lasts 10.25 seconds according to mids. It should have a 100% chance to proc in MG. I've speced out a few builds with varying amounts of recharge and S/L defense. I do admit that I had planned on using two purple sets, Confuse and Immob, which were cheaper in the past, but who knows what they will end up costing once converters are out.

Heres a data chunk for one of them, it has 108% global recharge without hasten and if you add in the agility alpha it's got 45% S/L defense. It's a bit low on end recovery, but I find that permadom helps with that.

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I guess if you wanted to cut out one of the purple sets, you could put stupify in HoD and the ATO into Living Shadows. You loose 3.75% recharge and a little bit of recovery but it's not too much.


 

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The proc stacks also. So, to have a 100% chance to go off once, may not be the best thing overall. I am not a number cruncher with procs, so someone else will have to make that call. Also, it never dawned on me to just go for smashing and lethal with the ice shield. I spent so much time on recharge, I forgot the simple stuff. I came here trying to help, but I am seeing a lot of good stuff in return. Let me know how your final builds work in practice. I may be headed toward my first ever toon that uses purples.


 

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Originally Posted by JayboH View Post
I wanted to know how long the +damage lasts for the ATO, anyone know?
I run the ATOs (nonpurp yet) in the fear, and consistently have 1, or 2 stacked, depending on kill rate. Due to lack of global acc, it is kind of hard to get a 95% hitrate at +3 and beyond.

I also am finding I have WAY too many things to push that I want to push.

fear, aoeimmob, HoD, field, gloom, pbaoe, drain, boost, (maybe nightfall), mgrasp depending on location, ugh.

Too much to click!


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