Optimum slotting for Living Shadows?

I've mentioned elsewhere that I'm using Living Shadows 6 slotted with the 5 GR Pre-Order enh + an Acc DO. Once I hit 20 those enh will stop procing so I need to be looking/collecting the procs etc to replace it. What/How many procs can you slott in Living Shadows?

5 of Posi Blast (with the proc) and the (Lethal?) proc from cr@p of the Hunter?

Is there a better combo to shoot for in optimizing Living Shadows?

TIA for any suggestions/insight!

Arg

I think it depends on,your goals. I will, in the long term, be shooting for recharge and ranged defense, so Will of the Controller is likely. I think if you are using it for damage, your posi blast with the s/l proc idea is the way to go.

Lewis

Living shadows does such astonishingly poor damage that I'm not sure it would be worth slotting it for anything but set bonuses. I'd say the same of any aoe immobilize apart from roots, but living shadows has the additional disadvantage of being a cone. This is a disadvantage inasmuch as continual reapplication will require continued presence at the periphery of the spawn, other aoe immobs allowing you to keep applying them from wherever you like. Frankly it seems like hands down the most skippable power in the set and that's precisely what I'm doing on my own controller. As far as containment goes, as I see it dark does pretty well in terms of other methods of gaining it, especially if you have a secondary that also contains some control.

I personally would put Will of the Controller in it, for recharge and defense. I feel that despite the unusual shape, its a fantastic tool. I love it.

Lewis

Yeah, as a caveat to my previous post I should note that I hardly ever play control ATs so my impulse when I do is to look for every possible place to squeeze out some damage. From that perspective it isn't a very good power so I wouldn't recommend slotting it with posi's blast unless you desperately need the 6.25% bonus and have the slots for it.

It's quite possibly a perfectly good immobilize power but since my last controller was plant/storm of all things I figure there's no chance for it to do anything but pale in comparison to his immobilization potential (what doesn't?) I'll be trying a different approach this time. Dark seems like it has pretty excellent controlliness without relying on that most standard of tools but without being quite as esoterically soft as illusion. I was thinking of will of the controller in heart of darkness, but then, I guess I could spring for absolute amazement... Decisions, decisions.

Cloud senses, the accurate tohit debuff set, also has a negative energy damage proc. So you can fit up to 3 damage procs in it. Cloud senses also has a 6.25% recharge bonus at 4 pieces, and +2.25 max end at 3 pieces.

Looking at the set you could, say, take the acc/end/recharge, tohitdebuff/end/ recharge, the damage proc and either accuracy/tohit debuff or accuracy recharge, then the trap proc and the positron proc.

3 damage procs, some end reduction, accuracy and recharge, a recharge and max end bonus, and a bit of tohitdebuffage as a bonus. Note that each damage proc is worth about a 60% damage enhancement on average in the aoe immob. That's assuming you have containment, without containment it'd be 120%.

Once you hit 50 I'd say that the Grav Anchor hold proc is pretty much a given in any AOE immob; I have it in my Dark/Dark defender's Tentacles and my Fire/Rad 'troller's Cages. It's just too good not to slot.

I haven't studied the Dark control set that closely... even though I just rolled one... but it seems like the Shadows work similarly to the dark blast Tentacles power? I found on my defender that the damage wasn't worth slotting for yet the tohit debuff was significant so I went with the Cloud Senses set.

For procs you've the Posi, Cloud Senses, Trap of the Hunter and Grav Anchor available that I see offhand... 3 damage and one hold. You could proc it up that way and toss in acc & range to fill it out. It does look like procs will get you considerably more mileage than straight up damage slotting.

On the Will of the Controller I just bought a set for my Ill/Rad, it was really fairly inexpensive at around 10-20 million per IO. It has no damage enhancement though so it may not be ideal to slot there... it's mainly acc/control/recharge. I tossed it into Flash on my Ill/Rad.

Also, for those of us going for ranged defense (or defense generally), keep in mind that anywhere that Cloud Senses can go, not only can you get the 6.25% global recharge in 4 slots, but you can also get a juicy 3.75% ranged defense bonus in 6 slots. When you get a lot of ranged defense and other defense interacting with -toHit, things get real nice!

Lewis

Im putting damage on it. Probably Ragnarok+posi proc. Otherwise, Posi set + cloud senses proc (or trap of the hunter proc)

I think I'm going with Posi+Trap lethal proc for now, I had paragon points sitting around (and all those enh are on sale atm) and having a scaling IO set is just too handy. . Not to mention I really need the +Acc global fromthe Posi 5 pack.

I may revisit that in a final build, the Clouded set would be great!

Arg