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From what I understand the value of the highest typed defense is used when calculating your defense. So if you were attacked by flares the game would check against your fire defense and ranged defense and use which ever is higher.|
Originally Posted by Goonie
So, I understand that due to attack coding most aim for 45% s/l def. What I'm curious about is how ranged def would work on a character played at a range (namely, a dark / thermal / dark). This would be with pretty much no s/l def. Does anyone have experience with a ranged def corr build?
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Some players choose to slot for S/L because it's the most common damage type for NPC attacks while others like me would rather slot for positional defense R/M/AoE whenever possible, because while all attacks may not be S/L, all attacks are either R/M/AoE.
As far as ranged defense on a Corruptor, it can be achieved but not as easily as on a Defender. Also getting the IO ranged defense bonuses require 6 slotting in many of you powers where as slotting for S/L bonuses only require 3-4
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Now for my more typical verbose answer:
The thing with only getting Ranged def vs. S/L is that Positional Defense (Melee, Ranged, AoE) only protects from the respective position. So as long are you are being attacked at Range, your Ranged defense helps you, but if you are engaged in Melee (ie by being grounded and ambushed) that defense does NOTHING to help you. Whereas Typed Defense protects against any attack (Melee/Ranged/AoE) that is made against you. The most common Typed Attack are Smashing and Lethal and therefore the majority of builds aim for as much Smashing and Lethal Defense as can be obtained. So in short, building for Ranged is all well and good but be aware that if you fail to stay at Ranged there is no defense to back that up.
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Positional Beats out Typed. Typed is usually obtained when you cannot obtain Positional. |
Originally Posted by Goonie
So, I understand that due to attack coding most aim for 45% s/l def. What I'm curious about is how ranged def would work on a character played at a range (namely, a dark / thermal / dark). This would be with pretty much no s/l def. Does anyone have experience with a ranged def corr build?
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Read the links in my signature if you want to actually understand how it works and the importance.
The good thing about Dark is that it does provide a -ToHit Debuff which is pretty much added on like defenses. So a -ToHit Debuff of -10 would improve all your defenses by 10 points. The BIG issue with -ToHit Debuffs is that they can be resisted, most of the time they are not but when your banking on the -ToHit Debuff to cap out and it is resisted you can notice the incoming damage difference.
Because of Thermal you are dealing with resistance bonuses instead so you might be best getting some defense numbers and working more toward resistance capping. Nutshell getting Range defense in mid 30s and getting resistance to 50% along with the ability to heal should prove very useful to you. Of course defense cap plus 50% resistance is better but you will probably have to compromise with the build.
1. Why Soft Cap is Important : http://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011...important.html
2. Limits: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits
3. Attack Mechanics: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics
4. Rule of Five: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Rule_o...e_Law_of_Fives
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If you can cap to every positional vs cap to every type (usually with the exception of psi), yes. Every positional vs every type including psi is kind of a mixed bag, since some attacks are positional but not typed (toxic, web nades, that stuff) and some are typed but not positional (certain psi powers).|
Originally Posted by plainguy
Positional Beats out Typed. Typed is usually obtained when you cannot obtain Positional.
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If you can only cap one defense (S/L or Ranged), it will depend on build, playstyle, and situation. As Hextor said, Ranged will do very well until/unless something gets into melee with you (and hoverblasting doesn't always work in hallways/caves), at which point it does squat, but S/L would keep working.
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Originally Posted by EnigmaBlack
...Also getting the IO ranged defense bonuses require 6 slotting in many of your powers where as slotting for S/L bonuses only require 3-4
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One good thing about building for ranged is the secondary energy def you'll end up with. Apparently there's alot of energy damage on the itrials. Thunderstrikes are king for these builds.
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So, I understand that due to attack coding most aim for 45% s/l def. What I'm curious about is how ranged def would work on a character played at a range (namely, a dark / thermal / dark). This would be with pretty much no s/l def. Does anyone have experience with a ranged def corr build?
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