Question 2.
Short answer.
Demons/Time does not have a huge deal of synergy. BUT it does make a very good combo. How you ask? Well..
Long Answer.
As I said, the two sets do not have much synergy. As in the way bots (or thugs) will go with FF or traps, the +def powers stacking up to crazy heights. Or the way Demons +resists would go with thermal/sonic +res shields.
However, considering the actual powers in the sets, as a package..show they really compliment each other.
Demons are all resistance (I think one has a lil def), some healing (aoe and st) and some decent slows. Also, they usually end up in melee range.
Time has that great aoe heal, that cant miss (like the dark can) and will easily cover all the pets. Aoe slow and debuff aura, also -damage. Effectively giving the demons more resist, as well as def, to go with Farsight (power boost it for the best results). Also has chrono shift as a panic button to mass heal pets for a lot.
Again, Demons/Time will never have the defence that two +def synergistic sets can give, or two +resist ones. But what it does have is very very strong layered powers, leaving you with an option in just about all situations.
I have never played Bots/traps but here are some things I've learned as a Ninja/Time.
1. Incarnate trials are designed to be a lot tougher than normal content. Just accept the fact that until you get all of your level shifts and have slotted a good Destiny to help buff your pets, your pets are going to die more often.
2. Similar to above, all of the incarnate stuff is currently geared toward a large group (16-24). And, it is generally accepted that out of that group there will be a significant amount of buffs to compensate for the tougher foes.
3. On Apex, you need to simply discipline yourself to watching for the blue circles of death and ordering your pets to move out of them ASAP. If you lose any bots, find a safe spot and re-summon ASAP. Also, since you are traps, while some of your stuff may not work so well when you have to move a lot, you need to figure out what stuff you can use on the fly and use it as best you can. Don't forget that your pets can use whatever Interface you slot to be applying a debuffs as well as whatever other powers they have.
As a whole, playing on the incarnate stuff means you have to be willing to adapt to tougher situations.
And, as for your second question, any mastermind with Time Manipulation is a good combination. The whole set lends itself well to supporting your pets.
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I can speak to the time/resistance synergy. As noted above time juncture has modest -tohit which couples with defensive type pets, but -damage does so very well with the pets. It on the order of a pre-resistance shield, the damage potential is lowered, yet the resistance buffs of the demons still apply at their enhanced rates.|
Originally Posted by Inquisitor_NA
Two questions, one filled with rage, the other normal, Mastermind forum:
1. How do I get my bots/traps' bots to 60% Defense without relying on my secondary? It's not like I can control my Force Field Generator or buff it to keep a Victoria from murdering it, and right now it's like every time I go on an iTrial with Victorias and I'm not massively buffed or tanked for, a Victoria can just approach my bots and kill five in .3 seconds, dooming me to fifteen to twenty seconds of resummoning/re-equipping on the off chance it didn't kill me too; a long time in a BAF, an eternity in Keyes/LAM/TPN which are all very kinetic trials. And in something like Apex? I might as well become a one-powerset villian, because I sure as hell can't pause to resummon my bots without either 15 swords jumping at me or getting bombed by magic swords halfway through summoning a batch. 2. A slightly less rage-y post: I've been running a Demons/Time MM which I've been finding entertaining so far at level 18, but... do Demons and Time have any synergy? I don't think Time has +res, and demons do Res instead of Defense... am I missing something? Is this not gonna work out in long run, or does it? |
As stated, the PbAoE heal for melee attacking pets is very nice. The other thing you might remember is you can PRE-heal before the fit hits the shan and you say PANCAKE! The heal ticks continue to benefit the affected allies for a modest duration.
Another power to consider is temporal selection. The recharge boost is wasted on pets, still very good for allies, but even solo - the targets damage is boosted as well as the target's regeneration.
With the -damage from time juncture, the heal and regen from temporal mending, the added regen from time selection, and even more heal from Chronoshift (whose heal is boosted on temporal selection targets), the time manipulation set is very durable, on the order of Forcefields, Traps, Sonic, Dark, and Storm.
Dark's big feature is the psy resistance in shadow fall, where Time has the -damage and damage type does not matter.
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Should mention that although Vickies in Incarnate Trials and Apex TF are generally the same, your bots won't be - the special Supremacy Incarnate Shifts your minion and lieutenant pets get in Incarnate Trials (+2 for minion and +1 for lieutenant on top of normal Incarnate Shifts to push them to your level) don't apply in 'normal' content, which Apex TF is a part of... I think.
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Originally Posted by Inquisitor_NA
a long time in a BAF, an eternity in Keyes/LAM/TPN which are all very kinetic trials. And in something like Apex? I might as well become a one-powerset villian, because I sure as hell can't pause to resummon my bots without either 15 swords jumping at me or getting bombed by magic swords halfway through summoning a batch.
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Oh..I forgot the Apex question.
I still think some of the iTrials are rather unfair on MMs. Granted, is is quite a bit better since the pets got shifted and free aoe def..but it is still annoying as hell when you are moving past a mob to go heal whatever the league is up to, a boss sees your pets and proceeds to kill them all with an aoe.
The first time I did Apex (before the changes to pets) I was on my bots/storm MM and the entire last mission was just using my secondary, due to pets being wiped out instantly. It wasn't very fun.
The collection phase of Lam is similar. Unless the team is SUPER buffy, you have the choice of either staying with the team (or parts of it), losing pets and aggroing extra mobs as you go, flat out ignoring your pets as using your secondary alone, or going off by yourself and trying to solo crates/acids.
I usually go the -pet option. It saves a lot of time constantly resummoning.
Two questions, one filled with rage, the other normal, Mastermind forum:
1. How do I get my bots/traps' bots to 60% Defense without relying on my secondary? It's not like I can control my Force Field Generator or buff it to keep a Victoria from murdering it, and right now it's like every time I go on an iTrial with Victorias and I'm not massively buffed or tanked for, a Victoria can just approach my bots and kill five in .3 seconds, dooming me to fifteen to twenty seconds of resummoning/re-equipping on the off chance it didn't kill me too; a long time in a BAF, an eternity in Keyes/LAM/TPN which are all very kinetic trials. And in something like Apex? I might as well become a one-powerset villian, because I sure as hell can't pause to resummon my bots without either 15 swords jumping at me or getting bombed by magic swords halfway through summoning a batch.
2. A slightly less rage-y post: I've been running a Demons/Time MM which I've been finding entertaining so far at level 18, but... do Demons and Time have any synergy? I don't think Time has +res, and demons do Res instead of Defense... am I missing something? Is this not gonna work out in long run, or does it?