A couple of things, first the rewards are random, have nothing to do with your AT or your orange numbered participation you would get the same chance roll at the end table if you just stood at the door.
Next, you need use distortion bubble on the door(addiing the hold proc works wonders), also consider get either the cims or polar lights to t3-4 placing them right in front of the door as well.
Been holgging doors like this for some time now on several different toons, MM's (Thugs/Time. Bots/traps) are some of the best door holders in the game. YMMV.
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Actually, if you're referring to Incarnate Trial reward tables, this isn't correct. There are TWO tables -- one with a random Common/Uncommon/Rare/VR (not counting the Trials where this is tweaked upward) and another for people who don't participate to the minimum threshold as determined by the game.|
Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
A couple of things, first the rewards are random, have nothing to do with your AT or your orange numbered participation you would get the same chance roll at the end table if you just stood at the door.
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But you are correct in saying that, if you do participate enough to be presented with the "regular" reward table, whether you get a common, uncommon, rare or VR drop is completely random as far as we can tell (and all evidence so far seems to back that up solidly).
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Well, the official explanation is this:|
Originally Posted by OutaControl
I'm sure this is asked before but...
I feel like the trial rewards are based off of how well you perform, either by Damage or by Heals. |
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Originally Posted by Baryonyx
Hello everyone,
As I mentioned in my previous post, we have been looking at your feedback and our own internal data and coming up with some improvements for a few aspects of the Incarnate System. I'd like to thank you for patiently waiting while we sort out the details, some of which I go into below. Before that, let’s address some general concerns that have come up, particularly in relation to the reward system.
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You mean like getting the 10 thread reward when you dc and come back late, yes I have had that happen. You are correct Sir.
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Originally Posted by Eric Nelson
Actually, if you're referring to Incarnate Trial reward tables, this isn't correct. There are TWO tables -- one with a random Common/Uncommon/Rare/VR (not counting the Trials where this is tweaked upward) and another for people who don't participate to the minimum threshold as determined by the game.
But you are correct in saying that, if you do participate enough to be presented with the "regular" reward table, whether you get a common, uncommon, rare or VR drop is completely random as far as we can tell (and all evidence so far seems to back that up solidly). |
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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err... sort of. There is a participation metric but if the OP were not 'participating' enough, he would be getting 10 threads, not commons. Since he's getting commons, you're right - it's RANDOM and the OP has had bad luck.|
Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
A couple of things, first the rewards are random, have nothing to do with your AT or your orange numbered participation
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Well, I think there needs to be some further clarification on this issue. I will share what I know - specifically about the UGT. |
Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Well, the official explanation is this:
That big block of text Snow Globe had in here didn't copy over for some reason. Now, after 525 trials, I've noticed a disparity of trial rewards. Some of that can be attributed to faulty calculations for some ATs (my Master Minds were showing a a lower distribution initially because they weren't able to match the participation metric), but not all. |
In the November 10 patch notes, the statement is clear. UGT will Always provide a rare/very rare.
In the December 13 patch notes, the statement is that it is now even easier to be awarded this table, provided you are present during the entire trial and working with the league.
On November 13th, I was awarded a common. Having led the UGT in question, I thought this to be a bug. I was encouraged to post about the incident on the forums, which I did. I was in e-mail communication with the GMs for over a month on this matter.
Sadly, the wording of that communication are not allowed on the forums.
But, the gist of it was that there was a participation metric for the rare/very rare, but I did not meet that participation metric.
I called foul again, referencing the very same post Snow Globe documents above. They reiterated that my participation was insufficient to merit the rare/very rare metric.
It would seem to me a logical conclusion that there are multiple metrics at work.
(we could reach other conclusions, but they might be an off topic digress. )
1. Did player meet metric for rare/very rare ?
If yes, let the rng do its thing.
If no, did player meet the metric for common, uncommon, rare, very rare?
If so, let the rng do its thing.
If not, give 10 threads.
Yes, it is entirely possible that at that time the rewards for the UGT were broken.
Yes, it is also entirely possible (but unlikely) that the GMs in question were illiterate or unable or unwilling to correctly respond to the issue.
It is also possible that Baryonyx's post left out some criteria on purpose, to prevent some possible exploit. <shrug>
That's all I can tell you about it - and my conclusions are speculative in nature, because of the conflict between what the Senior GM tells me and what Baryonyx's post says.
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The forums does not normally include quotes when quoting a post. You have to manually add them back, but in this case please don't.
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Originally Posted by Ukaserex
That big block of text Snow Globe had in here didn't copy over for some reason.
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Trouble is that some of my alts just have luck and some doesn't. Some keep getting purples and other good recipes, and some need to borrow money from other alts just to get SO's. E-mailing things among alts does help a lot (at least I don't have to bother friends to transfer things from one to another).
I wish that devs will one day give us possibility to send incarnate salvage from one to another alt. Till then I will have T3 and 4 incarnate powers only on lucky alts. Unlucky will have to be happy with just T1 and 2 and never do newer trials.
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I guess you missed the post where I stated as such. |
Originally Posted by Ironblade
err... sort of. There is a participation metric but if the OP were not 'participating' enough, he would be getting 10 threads, not commons. Since he's getting commons, you're right - it's RANDOM and the OP has had bad luck.
This part is flat-out WRONG. If you sit by the door, you'll get the 10 threads 'reward' instead of a salvage roll. |
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Nope. Saw it afterward and declined to go back and revise my post. |
Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
I guess you missed the post where I stated as such.
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Well, since my original post I've got two uncommon to dop.
I've had to convert 120 threads to get the other two uncommon I needed.
if I have to convert all threads to uncommon to eventually make a rare, I'll die of old age.
I have 10 characters decked out in T4, this is my only slacker. I pretty much HATE this character.
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I find it odd that you hate a character not for how it plays, but for the poor luck you get in random drops on it. Also, is getting tier 4 really necessary for each and every one of your characters? Really?
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Originally Posted by OutaControl
I have 10 characters decked out in T4, this is my only slacker. I pretty much HATE this character. |
Just a side note:
today
I did 4 trials with my MM and got 4 commons.
I did 4 trials with my ice/kin controller and got 4 rares.
I still say it must be related to performance and the MM pets don't give me any credit or are dead and can't give me any credit.
I'm sure this is asked before but...
I feel like the trial rewards are based off of how well you perform, either by Damage or by Heals.
I have more than one fire/kin controller and each one did really well, I had to downgrade a few VRs because I had too many. A fire/kin does great DPS and it also does great Heals, it's a win-win character for getting rewards. All other types of powers are worthless ( any kind of mez, slow, -hit, -regen , -recovery )
I'm now playing an bot/time MM and I can't get ANYTHING but commons to drop. I had originally used Vigor as my alpha slot thinking it would help my heals ( and it does ) but I have since moved over to Musculature and a T1 musculature gives be better rewards than a T3 vigor ( I have had at least one uncommon drop ).
The time manipulation other than a few heals is slow, -regen, -to hit which seem worthless in a BAF. several items are immune to slow and don't attack so -to hit is worthless. MM have few direct attacks other than the tissue paper pets, which all seem to vaporize. I really only have two good DPS attack, the Epic fire ball and the ION Judgement, both seem to get me killed.
I'm casting as fast as I can through all of my powers and all that drops is common. Compare that with my fire/kin that had to downgrade several VRs. I can't even make T3s on my MM because I don't have even have uncommon's to make T2s with or the rares to make T3s. The only T2s I have came from converting 60 threads over which I never have had to do on my blasters or fire/kin controllers.
I loved my MM while I was leveling but after a way too many trials I'm starting to hate him.