Vote to Kick


DarkGob

 

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I'll begin by acknowledging that there is some theoretical merit to the Kick Vote feature for leagues, so despite my misgivings I wouldn't suggest getting rid of it.

However, as a feature it is subject to abuse. Case in point, last week's Underground Trial on Liberty wherein one or more persons thought it would be funny to keep starting kick votes on another person, not only at the worst possible times (Extinction War Walker fight), but over and over again. It was obnoxious, annoying, and anonymous. The Kick Vote feature needs some restriction(s) on its usage, whether it be ...

1. A limit on how frequently any one person can start a Kick Vote,
2. A limit on how frequently any one person may be the target of a Kick Vote,
3. A simple cool-down timer on its use, etc.

I'm aware that the system could theoretically be gamed by a few co-conspirators, so perhaps that isn't enough. Maybe only team leaders or the league leader can begin votes. Maybe the league leader's version of the kick dialog includes the identity of whomever initiated the vote. In any case, I can attest that the system we have now may already be abused and the perpetrator(s) are already effectively immune, so it's definitely in need of improvement. Repeatedly starting kick votes on someone during tense moments of a difficult trial is essentially griefing the league.


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Couldn't you all have just voted to kick the person who kept doing that?


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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
Couldn't you all have just voted to kick the person who kept doing that?
You don't know who did that.
On Freedom we were doing a series of BF/Lams at december 24 so everyone was making jokes and not caring much, dying a lot but we were succeeding, but for the lulz we started to blame someone for the deaths and made lots of vote kicks for him. He wasn't kicked because we were just kidding and he found it funny, but I could never see who did each vote. We used it as a joke that day, but it seems very poorly implemented, I agree with the OP.


 

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What's going to stop the butt hurt from getting the name (then later global) of the person that started the "vote to kick" and using it to grief the person afterwards? There are various ways for the vindictive to seek revenge once they know a name, and have access to unlimited accounts.

No, anonymity is best.


"Maybe only team leaders or the league leader can begin votes."

And what should players do when it's the Team Leader they want to get rid of? Just because they have the star doesn't mean they can't be clueless players, or jerks.

I think the best way to handle the situation the OP described is to file a petition and let the GM's review the game logs for the jerk abusing the feature and let them handle the discipline.


 

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I like the idea of a cooldown on it. Five to ten minutes should do, assuming each player has his own independent vote cooldown. If a player is really being a problem, enough of the team should agree on removing him without needing to repeatedly vote on it, and if he gets worse another player can use his/her cooldown to vote again. Since most trolls have short attention spans, without the instant gratification of spamming votes the bulk of them will ignore it.