Best two for a combo?


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G'day Everyone!

Been out of the game for 3 years Just come back for some fun, and I've brought my mate with me!

Were only going to be one minimal hours due to collage, so I was wondering what would be the best combination of archetypes for us to use through our journey?

I was thinking controller probably?
Ill/Rad & Fire/Kin
or Fire/Rad x2?

I love my scrappers! but I feel that two scrappers won't necessarily get along well?

Reading the forums I can see how in-depth the current game is... hopefully I'll be able to pick it all back up again

Thanks for the help!


 

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Believe it or not, two Empathy/Sonic defenders can really tear things up.

Permanent Fortitude and Adrenaline Boosts on each other, double stacked RAs, and tons of -resist for the enemies.

Edit: Also, you could pick just about any two MMs.


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Do you absolutely need to play the same AT? I think the best combo would be a mix of 2 AT's. A controller/def/corruptor combined with a blaster/scrapper/brute would be great.

Limited playtime means you will be in the low levels for a while. Controllers are not that great in the low levels, while blasters and brutes own them, especially with buffs.


 

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The best duos I've played have been corruptor/defender/controller + scrapper/brute/tanker.

Just be sure to pick up attacking sets with at least decent AoE and for the buffer/debuffer a set that has strong res/def buffs or damage/tohit debuffs.


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Thanks for the advice!

I think I'm going to try the Emp/Sonic Defender, sounds rather intriguing.

Hopefully see you guys around, also what do you think would be the easiest scrapper to get ahold of once again?

MA/SR?
Kat/Regen?

And how do claws stack up with todays current game?
I'm on a mac and so I can't do a mid's to see how the set's would potentially stack up, so I sort of need some outside help :/ Sorry

Thanks for all the help, really appreciate it!


 

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Seriously,

Anything/anything will be an AWESOME scrapper combo. There are no bad scrappers available.


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If you're going empathy, I suggest that the scrapper be something other than SR, SD, Invuln or EA. In other words, something that will definitely get the full benefit of fortitude. It's a great power because it turns any set into a defense set, so why start with a defense set?


 

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Go /fire brute for max damage.


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If you're going empathy, I suggest that the scrapper be something other than SR, SD, Invuln or EA. In other words, something that will definitely get the full benefit of fortitude. It's a great power because it turns any set into a defense set, so why start with a defense set?
Because soft capping is good in this game.


 

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Yyyyyyes, which is why it would not be helpful to be softcapped before fortitude when fortitude is guaranteed to be available.


 

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One Warshade, and one... Well, anything else will do.

Two Warshades, and you'll be fighting so hard for alpha strikes that it might strain the relationship.


 

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Yyyyyyes, which is why it would not be helpful to be softcapped before fortitude when fortitude is guaranteed to be available.
Minus tier 9s, I'm pretty sure an SO'd scrapper is not going to be soft-capped before 47. Which is why fortitude would help. Cmon bro you know this.


 

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Minus tier 9s, I'm pretty sure an SO'd scrapper is not going to be soft-capped before 47. Which is why fortitude would help. Cmon bro you know this.
What level do IOs start to drop again?

Who uses SOs anymore that's not a free account?

Who needs to be softcapped before level 30?

C'mon bro, you know all this.


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I've never IO'd any of my 50s before 47. GGs but I win .


 

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I've never IO'd any of my 50s before 47. GGs but I win .
Ditto. I will SO until 32 then make vanillas that will stay with me all the way to 47.

I don't think that's unique at all.


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I don't think that's unique at all.
Because "everybody's doing it" has always been a valid excuse for poor planning.

Regardless of when you start using IOs, though, you still don't need to be softcapped before level 30 or even 40. When talking about the high end, you're going to get a great deal more mileage out of pairing a resistance based set with Empathy than you will a defense one.


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Because "everybody's doing it" has always been a valid excuse for poor planning.
Whew, for a minute there, I thought I actually said 'everybody's doing it' or even implied it - thank goodness I found out that you were just being your regular snarky self and putting words in my mouth!


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Well both resistance-based and defense-based scrappers are pretty bad if they're dying in regular PvE shenanigans with an empathy defender following them around full time, so it really doesn't matter anyway.


 

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Whew, for a minute there, I thought I actually said 'everybody's doing it' or even implied it - thank goodness I found out that you were just being your regular snarky self and putting words in my mouth!
Because, clearly, "everybody's doing it" is to be taken as a literal statement. You said you don't slot IOs till 47. You said you don't think it's unique. That certainly implies that it's a common practice, if not a majority opinion. That has still never been a good excuse for poor planning.
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Well both resistance-based and defense-based scrappers are pretty bad if they're dying in regular PvE shenanigans with an empathy defender following them around full time, so it really doesn't matter anyway.
And defense based scrappers are still going to get much less benefit out of Fortitude than resistance based scrappers. It's not about dying in regular PvE shenanigans, it's about pulling extraordinary shenanigans.


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Just to jump right back onto this dog pile, I'd like to point out that I start IOing anywhere after level 20 and I prefer to be softcapped at level 30 by level 40. There's all kinds of ways to get through this crazy old game of ours.


 

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I also said I use vanillas at 32 - and I said it isn't unique, which is not the same as 'everybody's doing it' - and not using sets before 47 isn't 'poor planning' whatsoever.


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and not using sets before 47 isn't 'poor planning' whatsoever.
Ok, I'll give you three options:

1) Use enhancements which are cheap and single aspect but require maintenance every few levels to upgrade or replace.
2) Use enhancements which are relatively expensive, are single aspect, must be crafted, but do not require maintenance once slotted.
3) Use enhancements which are dirt cheap on the market, have several aspects which provide greater enhancement values than comparable single aspect ones, must be crafted, do not require maintenance once slotted, and occasionally give you set bonuses on top of all that.

Out of those three, option three is very often the cheapest and it gives you far better results while leveling your character.

Maybe using only SOs and only Common IOs isn't "poor planning." But if you can come up with a better term for "an alternative plan which yields worse results for a greater cost" that doesn't imply poor planning, I'm all ears.


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Ninja/something Mastermind + Plant/Kin Controller.


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Skipping 2nd half of thread just to say...

While a def based scrapper will get less mileage out of fort, a regen based one will get less mileage out of AB. Either way he won't die unless the emp falls asleep or something.