Storm team concept
By
Draeth Darkstar,
Posted on: 2011-10-28 07:40 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
Hello, and welcome to the game!
The most powerful character I ever played was a Fire/Storm controller. I soloed most of the content to 50 in under 60-days. Laying down Flashfire and Freezing Rain while your Imps eat up the enemy is amazing.
The most thematic combination is Storm/Elec defender. Better in groups.
I've also played in groups with three or four Lightning Clouds out at once, combined with overlapping Hurricanes and Steamy Mists. Most targets don't stand a chance.
Having said that, Storm takes some finesse to keep targets from flying away from melee characters. Walls and corners are your friends, and you can just "kiss" targets with Hurricane to debuff their AC without sending them flying. So, with the right terrain you can keep bosses pinned while your teammates take them out.
I have found the Electric secondary for tanks quite good. My favorite combo is Superstrength/Elec. You never have to worry about running out of End, and you are nearly immune to Sappers.
So, my picks are:
Fire/Storm controller
Storm/Elec defender
SS/Elec tank
Enjoy!
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I love my Storm/Archery/Elec Defender. Freezing Rain and Rain of Arrows is a awesome fun combo. And unless I just got weirdly lucky somehow on mine, I believe they have the same base recharge, so it's easy to keep that combo in sync and coming up together again and again.
And yes, 2 or 3 lightning storms out at once, and a couple tornados with hurricane really tears AVs up. I don't think I can get 4 Lightning Storms out, myself, even with REALLY heavy recharge slotting, but 3 is doable.
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Doomsday (name may not be allowed, but I don't know that for certain) will be fine. It's a very proven combo.|
Originally Posted by Pitch Black
Doomsday : Elec Melee / Shield Scrapper. Genesis : Invul / Elec Melee Tanker. Machina : ??? / Elec Armor Brute. Dominion : ??? / Storm Summoning Masermind. Oblivion : Electric Control / ??? Controlleur Zurvan : Electrical Blast / Time Manipulation Corruptor And a last slot open for the 7th... So I'm not asking for builds, but some ideas concerning combos who are doing great. Any suggestions will be highly appreciated regarding any aspect of my storm team ! Thank you for your time, and enjoy (my post, the game, or whatever you may). |
Genesis also should be fine. I don't see many of these, but it should be fun, effective, and extra cool for the novelty. And Invul is stupid easy to cap all sorts of stuff on.
Machina: I'd be tempted to go with Elec Melee again, but you already have an Elec Melee. So, if you decide to skip that, Super Strength. Fire is nice for it's AoEness, but isn't as fitting theme-wise I'd say. Energy Melee also might be fitting, but mechanically might not be as strong as the other choices.
Dominion: None of the Pet types available to MMs seems all that storm/elec-tastic to me, but Bots or Demons maybe might work. If I had to lose one of your 6 choices, it'd be this one, as almost every other AT has combos that fit the theme better and will be quite effective, too.
Oblivion: Elec Control with Kinetics for massive sapping potential. Or Cold for pretty good sapping, too. Or, to offset the lower damage, maybe Rad.
Zurvan: Should be a fun combo. Time seems all around strong, so I'm sure it would work with any blast set.
So, I think I might lose the MM Grab a Storm/x Defender (archery is my fav, but most anything could work) and then fill the last spot with a blaster. Elec (of course)/Elec or Energy.
I'd just like to make a suggestion... don't use a Mastermind for your Storm Summoner. The set meshes much, much better with a Control primary which features -knockback on it's immobilizes (read: ice, earth, fire), or, barring that, with Ice Blast.
Storm is pretty anti-synergistic with Masterminds, in my opinion. It causes far too much chaos on the battlefield without large area Control options and the pet AI does not respond to that well at all.
Another note... Electric Blast is among the worst ranged damage sets in the game, just to warn you. It may even hold the honor of number one worst. Electric Control, on the other hand, pairs amazingly with Time Manipulation, so if you're not opposed to two controllers, you could have an ice/storm and an electric/time to fit into your theme, or an electric/time controller and a storm/ice defender perhaps.
@Draeth Darkstar
Virtue [Heroes, Roleplay], Freedom [Villains], Exalted [All Sides, Roleplay]
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I24 Proc Chance = (Enhanced Recharge + Activation Time) * (Current PPM * 1.25) / 60*(1 + .75*(.15*Radius - 0.011*Radius*(360-Arc)/30)) Single Target Radius = 0. AoE Non-Cone Arc = 360.
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Agreed. Or just get a storm def. But a storm MM surely wouldn't be my first choice, either.|
Originally Posted by Draeth Darkstar
I'd just like to make a suggestion... don't use a Mastermind for your Storm Summoner. The set meshes much, much better with a Control primary which features -knockback on it's immobilizes (read: ice, earth, fire), or, barring that, with Ice Blast.
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| Storm is pretty synergistic with Masterminds, in my opinion. It causes far too much chaos on the battlefield without large area Control options and the pet AI does not respond to that well at all. |
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| Another note... Electric Blast is among the worst ranged damage sets in the game, just to warn you. It may even hold the honor of number one worst. |
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| Electric Control, on the other hand, pairs amazingly with Time Manipulation, so if you're not opposed to two controllers, you could have an ice/storm and an electric/time to fit into your theme, or an electric/time controller and a storm/ice defender perhaps. |
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Spellchecker removed the "anti" from the beginning of the word, fixed, and thank you.|
Originally Posted by Madadh
I think you meant, "Storm *isn't* pretty..." If not, I'm sorta lost by this comment.
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Originally Posted by Madadh
I'd have to agree, as a pure ranged damage set, it's probable the worst. It isn't all that bad as damage plus sapping effects set, and those sapping effects would be largely magnified on a team such as this. So if you're even gonna get the most bang for your buck out of Electric Blast, this is the team for it.
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@Draeth Darkstar
Virtue [Heroes, Roleplay], Freedom [Villains], Exalted [All Sides, Roleplay]
Code:
I24 Proc Chance = (Enhanced Recharge + Activation Time) * (Current PPM * 1.25) / 60*(1 + .75*(.15*Radius - 0.011*Radius*(360-Arc)/30)) Single Target Radius = 0. AoE Non-Cone Arc = 360.
Well thanks for your advices !
But I'm not gonna play all of them at the same time. The word team seems inapropriate, since they're all gonna be on the same account, it's more a roleplay team / ligue / whatever. Thus the needing for them to be able to solo quite well.
Anyway, been looking to your suggestions and made up my mind, part at least, so here is what I'll go with for sure :
Doomsday elec melee / shield scrapper
Genesis invul / elec armor tanker
Machina titan / elec armor brute
Oblivion elec melee / ninjutsu stalker (yay !)
As for the 3 lasts, think i'll go with a storm summoning defender, but I still hesitate for the other two...
I'd like to maybe incorpore a dominator, since they're the only one with the "assault" power trees, and it sounds fun.
They all must have electrical powers? Or an aspect of storm?
Lightning:
Electric Blast [Blaster, Corruptor, Defender]
Electrical Melee [Stalker, Scrapper, Tanker, Brute]
Electric Control [Dominator, Controller]
Storm Summoning [Defender, Mastermind, Controller, Corruptor]
Electric Manipulation [Blaster]
Electric Assault [Dominator]
Electric Mastery [Blaster, Corruptor, Defender, Mastermind]
Mu Mastery [All]
Cold:
Ice Armor [Tanker, Stalker]
Ice Melee [Tanker]
Ice Blast [Blaster, Corruptor, Defender]
Ice Control [Dominator, Controller]
Ice Domination [Corruptor, Defender, Controller, Mastermind]
Storm Summoning [Defender, Mastermind, Controller, Corruptor]
Ice Manipulation [Blaster]
Ice Assault [Dominator]
Cold Mastery [Blaster, Controller, Tanker, Brute, Dominator, Mastermind]
Wind:
Kinetic Melee [Tanker, Stalker, Brute, Scrapper]
Sonic Blast [Defender, Blaster, Corruptor]
Sonic Resonance [Defender, Corruptor, Controller, Mastermind]
Super Reflexes [Tanker, Brute, Stalker, Scrapper]
Claws [Brute, Stalker, Scrapper]
Storm Summoning [Defender, Corruptor, Controller, Mastermind]
Psychic Blast [Corruptor, Defender, Blaster]
Mental Manipulation [Blaster]
Psionic Assault [Dominator]
Gravity Control [Dominator, Controller
Psionic Mastery [Controller, Dominator]
Rain:
???
Archery?
Trick Arrow?
Ice Blast?
Ice Mastery?
Even with the stipulation of needing an electric set, you can think of some interesting storm combos and round out the concept with APPs/PPPs later in your career, like a Sonic Blast/Mental Manipulation Blaster with the Electric Mastery APP and color the powers white/gray for wind and have your lightning come later.
...just a suggestion.
Leo's on the same wavelength as me, here, I think. If you do go with the more open concept this could be a cool SG.
@Draeth Darkstar
Virtue [Heroes, Roleplay], Freedom [Villains], Exalted [All Sides, Roleplay]
Code:
I24 Proc Chance = (Enhanced Recharge + Activation Time) * (Current PPM * 1.25) / 60*(1 + .75*(.15*Radius - 0.011*Radius*(360-Arc)/30)) Single Target Radius = 0. AoE Non-Cone Arc = 360.
Well, I guess wind and ice/cold will be okay too as primaries / secondaries, considering the very nature of storm, but that's pretty much it.
And really it should be one of the main powerset to be one those 4 choices.
Sonic / Mental for instance would not be related to storm, cause it's more sound / psychic stuff, even with the mu mastery PPP.
But yeah, let's go for ice/cold wind as well ! I'm gonna do some more searching with those.
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True, but there is no reason to be only tackling only one group at a time with that sort of mitigation available. And as awesome as an Elec troller is, they can't be on two ends of the map at the same time..|
Originally Posted by Draeth Darkstar
Realistically, a single Electric Controller can completely floor the endurance of everything in a mile radius within a very short window of time anyway. The rest of the electric sets being thrown into the mix is just overkill. I would not take Electric Blast to further beat a dead horse for this reason.
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But, your point is valid. But keeping a concept group together is on occasion going to run the risk of over-capping an effect. Outside of the concept team scenario, the Elec Blaster does bring some nice sapping skills to a team (assuming that the role isn't already filled). I was mostly pointing out that what it loses in DPS, it does gain in mitigation quite nicely. Is it a totally fair trade-off? Probably not, in my opinion, but others may value the safety higher, and the DPS lower, so for them the set may be perfect.
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Originally Posted by Pitch Black
Well, I guess wind and ice/cold will be okay too as primaries / secondaries, considering the very nature of storm, but that's pretty much it.
And really it should be one of the main powerset to be one those 4 choices. Sonic / Mental for instance would not be related to storm, cause it's more sound / psychic stuff, even with the mu mastery PPP. But yeah, let's go for ice/cold wind as well ! I'm gonna do some more searching with those. |
Sounds like a fun start to an SG... Which server? I might even want to join in the fun.
Hello folks, so I've been playing CoH for a month or so, with my main char which is an Elec / Shield Scrapper, and I love it.
As I was struggling yesterday to write her a background, I came up with the idea of 6 characters, lead by a last one, all disciples of storm / electrical.
So basically, since I'm kinda new to the game and don't know all the cool builds out there, I was asking for combo suggestions (not build, i'll do that by myself later on), but they are some rules.
All char must use only one electrical power, and it is appreciated that two different chars dont share the same power if it is not an electrical one. All AT must be different, with no HEATs or VEATs. They must be strong, have no difficulties to solo stuff (not asking to solo +4/x8 or AV/GMs, but +1/x8 at least).I'm VIP (obviously since I can post here) so I have acces to incarnate / IO stuff and plan on build those chars accordingly.
As of now I've came up with those :
Doomsday : Elec Melee / Shield Scrapper.
Genesis : Invul / Elec Melee Tanker.
Machina : ??? / Elec Armor Brute.
Dominion : ??? / Storm Summoning Masermind.
Oblivion : Electric Control / ??? Controlleur
Zurvan : Electrical Blast / Time Manipulation Corruptor
And a last slot open for the 7th...
So I'm not asking for builds, but some ideas concerning combos who are doing great.
Any suggestions will be highly appreciated regarding any aspect of my storm team !
Thank you for your time, and enjoy (my post, the game, or whatever you may).