How do we inject villainy into established threads?
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Big_Lunk_NA,
Posted on: 2011-10-11 10:11 in Roleplaying
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Yes, but the thing is, from a reasonable person's viewpoint, he's a bad guy. I don't want to delve too deeply into moral relativism here: If you Nightwalker was real would you be comfortable with that? I think the answer is probably no.|
Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
B: I never said that. That said, 'Good' and 'Evil' are subjective.
To Nightwalker, for example, it seems like pushing Nictus evolution to the point of no longer needing a host is the right thing to do, freeing his kind from a parasitic nature without losing the powers they have gained from it. To him, the Peacebringers and people who get in his way are trying to deny them their right to live, to evolve, and are thus in the wrong. Again, there is way too much variety to even begin listing. |
He is also showing major pride there, of the "I'm always right" variety. That's a flaw. Heroes who aren't Captain Hammer analogues are going to try and be humble or at least question their self-importance. Or, heck, acknowledge it's a bad thing. Again, I'm not the RP police, this isn't EVERYONE, but it's a noticeable trend among heroes. People who don't tend to be bad heroes.
A villain doesn't, generally, have people telling him he's doing it wrong or a social standing he needs to maintain. They can be as arrogant as they want.
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C: Meh, works both ways. Villains poison the water supply, Heroes deliver the antidote. Heroes capture villain group leader, Villains bust him out and blow up the base. Again, both ways. |
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/disclaimer, post made at 1.22 am, coherent thought may be impaired 
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Agreed. And yes, Nightwalker IS evil as hell |
Originally Posted by Spectral_Ent
Yes, but the thing is, from a reasonable person's viewpoint, he's a bad guy. I don't want to delve too deeply into moral relativism here: If you Nightwalker was real would you be comfortable with that? I think the answer is probably no.
He is also showing major pride there, of the "I'm always right" variety. That's a flaw. Heroes who aren't Captain Hammer analogues are going to try and be humble or at least question their self-importance. Or, heck, acknowledge it's a bad thing. Again, I'm not the RP police, this isn't EVERYONE, but it's a noticeable trend among heroes. People who don't tend to be bad heroes. A villain doesn't, generally, have people telling him he's doing it wrong or a social standing he needs to maintain. They can be as arrogant as they want. |
He doesn't view himself as a villain. A number of what I would call 'more immersive' are like that. That said, not all Heroes ARE humble. Sure, a number are. A good example of Not is @Oreso's Overreactor, about as far from humble as you can get
yes, she has her reasons, but the outward outlook is anything but. I've known and RP'd with various other Hero characters who, although being on the side of good, can be incredibly up themselves and their goals. They are still 'Heroes' though and can still get the job done. Just an observation, really.
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Mine was made with the benefit of eight hours sleep and caffine
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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I don't know that person.|
Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
That said, not all Heroes ARE humble. Sure, a number are. A good example of Not is @Oreso's Overreactor, about as far from humble as you can get
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Now if you'd said Booster Gold.....
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Bearing in mind I know only Union based characters, since that's exclusively where I play |
Originally Posted by Cowman
I don't know that person.
Now if you'd said Booster Gold..... |
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Bearing in mind I know only Union based characters, since that's exclusively where I play
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Using an example like that is like being asked for an example of a footballer, and saying "my mate steve, as he kicks a ball in the park on saturday."
Booster Gold is actually a great hero these days who's heart is very much in the right place. Heck he's the leader of JLI now and he's doing a not bad job at it. Even Batman thinks he can do it if given a decent shot.
A vote of confidence from Batman. That doesn't come easy.
It's actually, "heroes always thwart villain's plan and villain always escapes to do it all again next week; same Bat-time, same Bat-channel".
yes, and the Bat-quote is the important thing, in the comics the heroes and Villains are designed to function together, Batman fights his villains, Superman his, they are neatly paired up and the writer knows the full story behind each character and can adjust the plot so every thing fits. Here we dont have that, most of thetime we have a small snap shot to base our view on of someone elses toon, .. i think we are back to the issue of a GM .....