Durable/Invulnerable/Invincible in comics
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Anti_Proton,
Posted on: 2011-09-30 13:47 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
The Destroyer from Thor is invincible, unless you count disabling its controller as a weakness.
"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
I think the Saint of Killers could probably be killed with his own guns.
- CaptainFoamerang
Silverspar on Kelly Hu: A face that could melt paint off the wall *shivers*
Someone play my AE arc! "The Heart of Statesman" ID: 343405
Also, ironically enough, Invincible should be included in the invulnerable section. >.>
- CaptainFoamerang
Silverspar on Kelly Hu: A face that could melt paint off the wall *shivers*
Someone play my AE arc! "The Heart of Statesman" ID: 343405
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As should the invincible Iron Man, depending on who's writing him and how much or little the current plotline needs him to get beaten up by Stilt-Man. (Seriously, has any other major superhero's durability level ever varied as wildly and arbitrarily as Iron Man's? I'm talking about within storylines involving only one model of his suit, too. Sometimes he's going toe to toe with Thor, sometimes he's losing fights to a guy wearing an earlier model of his own armor. Mind-boggling.)|
Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
Also, ironically enough, Invincible should be included in the invulnerable section. >.>
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Flip side, I would normally think of the Hulk as invincible by this list's standards. Unless, again, there's some arbitrary need for him to get punched out by the Thing, he's pretty well indestructible.
Other flip side, original-formula Superman (before he could fly) was only durable.
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Hulk has been physically wounded quite a few times (a notable example being any time he's fought Wolverine, even with bone claws), it just takes a lot to do it, and he heals from it pretty quickly.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
Flip side, I would normally think of the Hulk as invincible by this list's standards. Unless, again, there's some arbitrary need for him to get punched out by the Thing, he's pretty well indestructible.
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"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
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Maybe we need another category for "you can hurt me, but it's not actually going to make any difference." Wolverine could move there from Durable. |
Originally Posted by DarkGob
Hulk has been physically wounded quite a few times (a notable example being any time he's fought Wolverine, even with bone claws), it just takes a lot to do it, and he heals from it pretty quickly.
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("Hulk get knocked down, but Hulk get up again. Puny humans never going to keep Hulk down.")
Invincible - Cosmic level beings. I mean, can you hurt Galactus? The Watcher?
Invulnerable would probably take most of 'em though... I can't think of any Invinicble guys who have their own comic, because where's the drama?
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
I would move Luke Cage from durable to invulnerable. Skin with the durability of Titanium make him more than durable.
"Samual_Tow - Be disappointed all you want, people. You just don't appreciate the miracles that are taking place here."
There are very few characters in comics that are totally impervious to harm. Like the Punisher says, "There no such thing as bullet proof, you just need the right bullet."
"Samual_Tow - Be disappointed all you want, people. You just don't appreciate the miracles that are taking place here."
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Originally Posted by Nightphall
I was daydreaming today about this and came up with some examples.
Durable: Not invulnerable, but I can still take a lot of punishment before I go down. Examples: Spider-Man, Wonder Woman, Luke Cage, Wolverine, Captain America, trained martial artists through body control (Batman, Iron Fist, Shang Chi, et al) Invulnerable: With a few exceptions, most forms of attack can't hurt me Examples: Superman, Thor, Doomsday, Juggernaut (here only due to psi weakness), Plastic Man, The Hulk Invincible: Throw whatever you like at me.....I absolutely cannot be injured. Examples: The Saint Of Killers was the only example I came up with at the moment How does that look? Any other additions? |
Actually Invincible doesn't mean you can't be injured. It just means that, even if they injure you, you're still going to keep going.
Think "The Crow", Lobo, Mr. Immortal, etc. You can blow holes in him. You can chop parts off him. You can render him down to ash. All you're doing is delaying him AND TICKING HIM OFF MORE!
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Originally Posted by ChrisMoses
Invincible - Cosmic level beings. I mean, can you hurt Galactus?
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Maybe I should have disclaimered *barring macguffins*
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
Molecule Man should probably be under Invincible too, right?
- CaptainFoamerang
Silverspar on Kelly Hu: A face that could melt paint off the wall *shivers*
Someone play my AE arc! "The Heart of Statesman" ID: 343405
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Originally Posted by ChrisMoses
Maybe I should have disclaimered *barring macguffins*
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Where do the Nigh-Invulnerable fit in?
I was daydreaming today about this and came up with some examples.
Durable: Not invulnerable, but I can still take a lot of punishment before I go down.
Examples: Spider-Man, Wonder Woman, Luke Cage, Wolverine, Captain America, trained martial artists through body control (Batman, Iron Fist, Shang Chi, et al)
Invulnerable: With a few exceptions, most forms of attack can't hurt me
Examples: Superman, Thor, Doomsday, Juggernaut (here only due to psi weakness), Plastic Man, The Hulk
Invincible: Throw whatever you like at me.....I absolutely cannot be injured.
Examples: The Saint Of Killers was the only example I came up with at the moment
How does that look? Any other additions?
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