FAQ: Character transition to Premium


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Players going from VIP to Premium or returning players will be very interested in which of their characters will be available to play and what the restrictions on them will be. This is unfortunately not documented well enough, so hopefully this FAQ will help people be more prepared for the transition.

Suggestions for improvement and error corrections are welcome.

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Unlocking characters

Q: How many characters will I be able to play?

A: The number of character slots you will have as a Premium player is the number of extra slots you had as a subscriber over the normal 12 per server. If you've never redeemed an extra slot, this will be the number of "global slots" listed for your account. The official formula* is: two plus two if you own Going Rogue: Complete plus one per year of previous subscription at the time your account became part of Freedom, plus any character slots you bought. In practice you may get two more slots above that. Slots are purchasable on the Paragon Market. Slots may be used for existing or new characters.

(*) Based on my experience and others', two extra slots may be awarded over what's expected from the official formula. My two trial accounts from 2009 have 4 slots each, for example, and my old Premium accounts also have 2 more. A recently created Premium account has only 2 slots, as expected. It is said that applying Going Rogue no longer adds 2 slots, but I've yet to see a real world account of this.

Q: How will the game select which characters to make available?

A: All characters will be initially locked. You will be able to select which characters to unlock. Simply select to play them and they will be unlocked unless there are other restrictions on them. This choice is permanent until you go back to VIP status.

Q: Will I be able to unlock any character I previously created?

A: No. Only characters with archetypes, powersets and origin available to you as Premium will be unlockable. Origin means that if you have a Praetorian character but don't have Going Rogue or bought the ability to create a Praetorian, that character will not be playable.

Q: Which AT's and powersets will be locked to me?

A: Epic AT's are supposed to be locked, but many players have reported that they are playable. This may be fixed with time, so don't count on it. Controller and Mastermind will be locked if you haven't reached reward level 5. Going Rogue powersets will be locked if you haven't bought Going Rogue. Time Manipulation will be locked.

Q: How can I unlock AT's and powersets?

A: You can buy them on the Paragon Market. Controller and Mastermind will also be unlocked if you reach reward level 5. Note that if you reach reward level 5 after buying these AT's on the market you won't be able to get a refund for them. If you can find a copy of Going Rogue (which is no longer being sold) you can apply the code to the account to get its benefit, including the powersets. The current market prices are 800PP for a powerset, 1000PP for Epic At's, and 1200PP for Mastermind and Controller.


Character abilities

Q: Will the characters remain the same when going Premium?

A: The characters themselves will not change, however some of their abilities may be disabled. Any Incarnate powers will not be usable when playing Premium. In addition, any Invention Origin enhancements will not function unless you have reached reward level 7. The character will function as if there are no enhancements in these slots. Note that if you go back to VIP everything will be re-enabled.

Q: What are my options when the IO's are disabled?

A: The first option is to get to reward level 7. This will permanently unlock IO use and the rest of the invention system. The second option is to buy a 30 day license to the invention system at 160 Paragon Points ($2). The third option is to use normal enchancements (DO's, SO's).

If your character isn't using their second build, you can use that build to create a version of the character for use with normal enhancements, without having to remove the IO's from your main build. For returning players this is a good choice because they will often want to respec anyway, so creating a new build instead will save a respec and will create a newly slottable character without losing the old IO's. There's still the requirement of inf to slot the new build, so that won't work for everyone.


Supergroups

Q: Can I create a supergroup as a Premium player?

A: No. This ability is reserved for VIP players. If you want a supergroup, create it before going Premium.

Q: What will happen to my supergroup if I go Premium?

A: Your supergroup will remain intact.

Q: What will my Premium character be able to do in the supergroup?

A: Your character can be a member or a leader and can recruit others, and can also edit the base. A premium character can't pay base rent.

Note: Officially only VIP players can lead supergroups and Premium players also can't edit the base. Currently it's possible to edit and lead your personal SG, but it may be that in a real SG a VIP player will replace the leader if the leader drops to Premium (I haven't seen reports of that yet). Also, it's possible that the game will be changed to reflect the official line.

Note: This answer is incomplete regarding fully using the base.

Q: What can I do about the base rent?

A: If you have VIP players in the supergroup, they will be able to pay the rent (but may also become leaders). A VIP friend can create a character for the supergroup and help pay the rent. If you're just dropping to Premium for a short while, rent might last long enough. If you plan to play as Premium for an extended period, and want to access the base, a base without rent may be the only solution (I haven't tried it yet, but I plan to).

A base with zero rent will have limited functionality (only teleports, basic reclaimator, a few other things), but can serve as "personal housing" where you can show your design skills and the Paragon Rewards or other base stuff you have.


 

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Q: How many characters will I be able to play?
A: The formula is: two plus two if you own Going Rogue: Complete plus one per year of previous subscription, plus any character slots you bought. Slots are purchasable on the Paragon Market.
You only get 2 global character slot tokens if you applied GR Complete BEFORE I21/Freedom launched Sept 13. Additionally, you get 2 slot tokens if you were subscribed for the launch if Issue 12.

Wiki page on slot tokens:
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Global_Character_Slot_Token


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I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

 

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Q: Will I be able to unlock any character I previously created?
A: No. Only characters with archetypes, powersets and origin available to you as Premium will be unlockable. Origin means that if you have a Praetorian character but don't have Going Rogue or bought the ability to create a Praetorian, that character will not be playable.
Actually, they do not unlock the character, they unlock the slot. So they can unlock an empty slot and create a new character or they can unlock a slot that has an existing character in it. They can then play the character or delete it and create a new one. This means they can use a global unlock on a controller, MM, Praetorian, EAT or locked powerset, despite not being able to play them. They would then have to either delete the character or purchase the required license to play it.


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Originally Posted by Aggelakis View Post
You only get 2 global character slot tokens if you applied GR Complete BEFORE I21/Freedom launched Sept 13. Additionally, you get 2 slot tokens if you were subscribed for the launch if Issue 12.

Wiki page on slot tokens:
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Global_Character_Slot_Token
This is not entirely accurate, and may be completely wrong. At least the two trial accounts I have were both created after issue 12 and both have 4 slots. As for the GR slots, I remember it said that they could be applied at any time, but of course that may have changed. Have you seen anyone report about this from personal experience? I never trust "common knowledge" because I've already been told wrong things several times by knowledgeable people.

Edit: My currently active account also has 6 global slots, and it has less than a year of total subscription time and GR. It wasn't active during I12.


 

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There are a ton of oddities/bugs right now with billing, character slots, reward tokens, bonus pp, and subscription. You can't reliably judge based off of what it says right now; you have to judge based off of what we've been told.

Regarding the bugs, this isn't secondhand hearsay. I personally have two secondary accounts that have been migrated to active status:
1. a trial account upgraded with a $1.99 deal is properly Premium, has the appropriate 2 character slot tokens and 2 reward tokens, but has 1200 pp when it should have 800pp maximum (*should* have only 400 based on the "400pp/mo prior to I21 launch" but it seems we were given July's pp twice),
2. a trial account which has never been subbed or upgraded, ever, has 4 character slot tokens, even though it is a Free account.
My third secondary account isn't migrated yet, so I can't reference its data points.


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I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

 

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis View Post
You can't reliably judge based off of what it says right now; you have to judge based off of what we've been told.
The aim of the FAQ is to provide a real world guide to what people can expect, not an idealised one. If what is being applied to accounts is different than what was announced, even if due to bugs, that's what people will see. People who go back to their trial accounts will see four slots, even if this happens not to chime with what we expected. If at any point there will be an update to fix that, then this guide should change, but I can't imagine that happening, and in any case it hasn't yet happened.

As another example, well respected members of this forum (Snow Globe, Zombie Man) initially claimed that getting a token for the first $5 purchase of points is a bug, or that it won't apply if you already have a token for a retail box. It turned out they were wrong. That wasn't announced, and yet it's the real world situation. That's what people would get, so that's what should be included in guides.


 

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Then you definitely need to note that your guide isn't completed. Each of those items I stated are things we have been told by the developers, not by players (no offense to Snow Globe and Zombie Man). Facebook's Freedom Fridays, Ustream chats, forum posts, panel Q&A, etc.


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I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

 

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Like you Snow Globe and Zombie Man were only going by what devs said. Problem is what devs and reps say doesn't always remain true. It's typically just the plan, and that plan changes with time, or can't be easily implemented as desired, or there are simply bugs, and there's not always an official update regarding the change.

But I agree that I can make it a little clearer what I'm basing the answer on.


 

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Broke into sections, added supergroup details and discussed the second build solution to IO's a little more. Comments are welcome.


 

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis View Post
Then you definitely need to note that your guide isn't completed. Each of those items I stated are things we have been told by the developers, not by players (no offense to Snow Globe and Zombie Man). Facebook's Freedom Fridays, Ustream chats, forum posts, panel Q&A, etc.
Agge, that guide linked to at the beginning? That was taken entirely from this post:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=269044

The breakdown, is pretty much entirely verbatim from Zwillinger's post.

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1. a trial account upgraded with a $1.99 deal is properly Premium, has the appropriate 2 character slot tokens and 2 reward tokens, but has 1200 pp when it should have 800pp maximum (*should* have only 400 based on the "400pp/mo prior to I21 launch" but it seems we were given July's pp twice),
Also, Beastyle has said that, for September, all rewards were handed out during the headstart. Starting in October we will be getting the true reward dates. This would explain this account's reward tokens & paragon points. Yes. bugs creep in.

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I've also updated my guide.




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Agge, that guide linked to at the beginning? That was taken entirely from this post:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=269044

The breakdown, is pretty much entirely verbatim from Zwillinger's post.
I don't understand this "objection" at all. I wasn't talking about your guide at all. That should be obvious, since I was talking to the OP about his statements.

The "No offense to Snow Globe and Zombie Man" part was in direct response to his "well respected members of this forum (Snow Globe, Zombie Man)", and did mean exactly that: no offense to you, but the OP must warn people that he's not using complete data, only incomplete (and buggy) data from a test/prerelease/release type month (beta, headstart, launch).


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Originally Posted by Dispari View Post
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

 

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Sorry, A bit tired and didn't read it that way.

At any rate, the update that beastyle talked about would possibly explain your $1.99 account problem.




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Might wanna mention the 30 day invention license.


 

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Thanks. It was mentioned but obviously not clearly enough. I changed that answer and made that text bold, and I also changed formatting a little to make the questions stand out, which hopefully will help.


 

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Possibly stupid question here. Since the GR system is free to VIPs, if someone lets their subscription lapse, and they haven't bought GR, what happens to characters that are Rogue and Vigilante aligned. Are they locked in a similar manner that chars are that have the GR powersets?


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AFAICT (this is based off second-hand information so may not be correct; I don't have any vigs/rogues on my Preemie account), you get to keep playing them, but not as a gray alignment. Vigilantes are considered Heroes and Rogues are considered Villains.


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I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

 

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and mostly likely kicked back to their base H/V side if in the opposite side zone, I'm guessing?


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