Mac Issues
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Well you are bashing for no good reason. The OS has nothing to do with bad software, you know there's plenty of bad programs for Windows, including games, as there is bad native OS X software too.
You're right. My bad. I am so out of touch with Mac (which really means, PCs running Mac OS, now, so is it really a Mac? Another thread perhaps) that I am bashing for no good reason.
My extreme apologies. Please substitute 'Mac' with 'OS X', then in my previous posting. Otherwise, I'm still standing by the recommendation: Get a real gaming computer...which is to say, I suppose, get a real operating system? /No, surely that can't be right... OSX rules in a lot of other areas, even I know that. |
And the client for Coh is terribad. Yesterday I was on the fence about unsubscribing or not (nothing to do with the client). So I decided to play, in 2 hours the CoX client crashed 3 times. I got pissed off and rebooted into Windows (using the same iMac, wow who would say), played for 5 more hours, not a hitch, not a crash. That's not OS X's fault since there are games that run smoothly on them (again, see my comment about Blizzard, one of the few that has been making good OS X clients for ages).
It's just like Texas_Justice wrote (although I'm not sure what he meant later mentioning Brazil, I think he called me a nut since he posted right after me and I'm from Brazil) here:
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The few programs I've found that weren't natively written for Mac OS but were instead a port of a PC version have had too many problems. |
I'm no Apple fanboy, I've been using macs for 11 years because I prefer them and that's it. If you wanna find one, go for the people who bought the Apple bundle (iphone+macbook pro+ipad) last year and think 'everything is perfect' because they didn't know how to take care of Windows properly and ended up with viruses and crashes. I actually got flamed by my own friends who bought some Apple computer recently on facebook when I was with my prior mac (a 1.66 core duo mini) and wrote 'Wow windows 7 is great, it's running faster than OS X on my machine' (the reason was, that mac mini model was stuck to a 2gb RAM limit and OS X is hungry for RAM like Linux or other Unix based system). On my new imac, both systems run smoothly (and admittedly, since I'm an early adopter type guy, the new Mac OS X Lion has some annoying bugs because it changed the system core too much, I like the changes but like any system that does too much differently, it'll take 6 months or so to get better - before the first update I used Windows 7 as my main system for 2 weeks because of a very annoying and common bug that Apple fixed 1 month after releasing the system).
Btw, since Apple is growing fast on the notebook sales (everyone seems to like notebooks now, including my gaming friends, they're all buying high end laptops from Sager, HP or Dell instead of desktops, I'd buy a cheap notebook and a desktop, it'd be the same price and I could upgrade everything later but well, just what I'd do), there was even a quite large virus infection on OS X recently. IMHO, in 2-3 years every mac os x user will have to use antivirus programs too, if the 'Apple conversion' continues to grow like that. This also means that companies should pay attention to their Mac clients, many people won't install Windows on their macs, I'm a geek and like to have both, plus it's the only way to play Rift (who would say, my non-gaming computer runs a 2011 game at max settings - I know it won't last long but for now I'm enjoying new games at great settings, not bothered that I won't be able to do it in 2 years because I'm not a huge gamer, only CoX grabbed my attention for long in the last 4 years).
Fact is, dude, except for running OS X without tricks, I'm running the same hardware as most of you. When I bought my new mac I knew I was buying it because I like using OS X and I loved the iMac's design, build quality and design more than any other computer (I always wanted the 27 inch IPS screen). I prefer it enough to be willing to 'suffer' with Apple's stupid decision to not include usb 3.0 ports because they believe 'Thunderbolt is the future' (it may be, but where I live it's still hard to find Firewire stuff, so not too excited on having only usb 2.0 ports on a new system).
I find this 'system wars' kinda funny. A friend just asked which notebook she should buy the other day (on facebook too), specified she didn't want a macbook because she didn't want to learn a new system and didn't have the money for it and even then half the responses were 'MACBOOK PRO' or 'MACBOOK AIR IS THE BEST STEVE JOBS IS GOD OMG'. I was the first to actually send her some links on good deals on Dells (I don't like HP, didn't send her Sager/Clevo suggestions because she didn't care about gaming).
But heck, I even have an Android phone because I prefer it over iOs
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(answering on another post because of my wall of text above).
This might sound crazy, but if I knew that Macs could run CoX without a hitch (and without having to reboot to Windows) my next PC would be a Mac in a heartbeat.
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Emberly the client is sucky now, which affects me too because I really hate to reboot when I just want to play a lowbie, meaning no Mid's, no Herostats, things I like running on my high end toons. But maybe there's hope, there are some game clients that run well even using emulated technology (The Sims 3 and Fallout 3 run normally here and they're both emulated). Since I hadn't run the CoX mac client for 3 months and updated a lot of stuff when I tested it yesterday, I found it to run smoother than I could remember, it ran as well as the Windows one. The problem is that it locks up once every two hours - you can see that on the mac forums. But since I don't know the types of emulation used in different game clients, I don't know if the CoX engine they used has a 'fix'. From what I've seen from more knowledgeable people, it's a bad engine for OS X since it's from Linux, so perhaps they'd have to start it from scratch (yeah won't happen lol)
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A Brazil nut is the name for a type of nut.
It's just like Texas_Justice wrote (although I'm not sure what he meant later mentioning Brazil, I think he called me a nut since he posted right after me and I'm from Brazil) |
They're delicious.
PS: Emberly, is there any reason in particular why you're considering a Mac if CoH worked great on it?
My issue with Macs is that you pay a premium on inferior parts. For the price of a regular iMac that I couldn't repair or upgrade myself, I can buy a PC that's as good as it for cheaper, better for the same price, or if I build it myself, I can build something that blows it out of the water and the much higher priced models.
(And the prices them selves are ridiculous for upgrading them pre-purchase... On a 21.5" 2.7GHz model, to go from 4GB to 8GB RAM is £160. To go to a 2TB HDD from 1TB is £120 extra. That's insane.)
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The point I was making in that tangent was that while I'd tried various types of nuts and learned to appreciate their differences while I was younger, as I got older one of them became one that I liked less than I did when I was young. Tastes change over time. Preferences in almost anything can change.Part of the reason I no longer enjoy Brazil nuts as I did when I was younger could be because Brazil nuts contain Barium and Radium. I've had Barium for several medical tests so it could be that I'm picking up on the Barium in the Brazil nuts and my brain is associating the nuts with the discomfort of the medical tests. I've also been subjected to various radioactive substances being used in tests.
Who knows why people's tastes change. I've used several versions of Windows now, and I definitely have my favorite features of a few of them. In some cases, a feature that I liked very much has been improved on in newer versions of Windows and I now prefer that version of the feature over my previous favorite.
Similarly, I can appreciate the differences in some of the Mac OS versions I've used at times (I can recall using OS 8 and OS 9 before OS X came out, and they are very different in many respects). I can also appreciate the different distros of Linux that I've used in the past and even differences within the same distro as newer versions and kernels are compiled.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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Familiarizing myself with another OS mainly.
PS: Emberly, is there any reason in particular why you're considering a Mac if CoH worked great on it?
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edit: rereading, I wasn't that clear. I didn't mean that I would replace my Windows machine, just that the next PC I buy would be a Mac. I am chained to Windows because of my work, which uses special software that just plain isn't available on any other OS.
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You could always set up a Hackintosh, doesn't seem that hard, Lifehacker has some good articles about it if you wanna test drive the system. That said, while I enjoy OS X immensely (and even more with Lion because it puts a trackpad - or in my case the Apple mouse which is a 'mobile trackpad' - to good use), with all the copying MS has done from OS X and Apple has done from Windows... They're not that different to use unless you do Terminal-ish geeky stuff.
Familiarizing myself with another OS mainly.
edit: rereading, I wasn't that clear. I didn't mean that I would replace my Windows machine, just that the next PC I buy would be a Mac. I am chained to Windows because of my work, which uses special software that just plain isn't available on any other OS. |
Btw Emberly, if you ever happen to really like OS X to the point of buying a Mac to use it as your main OS, I've been using Windows XP and later Seven since my reg date (when I bought my Mac Mini and started playing Coh, there was no mac client), and both of them worked wonderfully for me, never got a blue screen of death here (I skipped Vista), both on the old mini and the new imac. So it's totally usable a dual boot machine too, I spent months only on XP on my more Coh-addicted days
This might sound crazy, but if I knew that Macs could run CoX without a hitch (and without having to reboot to Windows) my next PC would be a Mac in a heartbeat.