If you don't think that quoted post from Z was blanket market speak covering chat 'as a whole' I have nothing further to say on the issue except;
I don't see how your overlooking this simple concept, I'm not 'dead set' on anything. Just pointing out how silly it is for posters to hide behind the RMT excuse when it obviously doesn't apply.
I also don't see how asking the community to use common sense when defending their particular position is something you wouldn't want...
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Posters aren't hiding behind anything. They are giving you the exact response they've been given by the devs, and no it isn't blanket market speak. Yes RMT would abuse a respond back to tells feature because they've done so in the past before the chat restrictions were in place.|
Originally Posted by MaestroMavius
If you don't think that quoted post from Z was blanket market speak covering chat 'as a whole' I have nothing further to say on the issue except;
I don't see how your overlooking this simple concept, I'm not 'dead set' on anything. Just pointing out how silly it is for posters to hide behind the RMT excuse when it obviously doesn't apply. I also don't see how asking the community to use common sense when defending their particular position is something you wouldn't want... |
They would pose as looking for teams and spam people that sent them tells.
They would join teams and and spam their advertisements.
They joined SG's and spam them some more, as well as try to raid their storage.
They joined global channels and spammed them, which in turn caused many of the global channels to silence all new members or switch to private so no one could join without an invitation.
The devs made a decision to lock the channels behind a $5 dollar purchase, and it seems to be working. We haven't been inundated by RMT and the price is low enough that anyone can afford it. And that one time $5 dollar purchase doesn't just get those people access to the chat channels, it gets them all the other benefits of having a Premium account.
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I don't get why you're so worked up over this but thanks for finally giving me a straight answer. That is, after all, all I was looking for. |
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Yes RMT would abuse a respond back to tells feature because they've done so in the past before the chat restrictions were in place.
They would pose as looking for teams and spam people that sent them tells. They would join teams and and spam their advertisements. They joined SG's and spam them some more, as well as try to raid their storage. They joined global channels and spammed them, which in turn caused many of the global channels to silence all new members or switch to private so no one could join without an invitation. |
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Well looking at your reg date I figured you were around when RMT was at it's worst, and didn't need it spelled out why it was so bad that the devs decided to take drastic measures with the chat restrictions. |
Originally Posted by MaestroMavius
I don't get why you're so worked up over this but thanks for finally giving me a straight answer. That is, after all, all I was looking for.
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Sorry if a assumed wrong on that.
They went a bit overboard with the restrictions. However, I think that might be a situation where they didn't have a choice. I'm not sure if the code is in place that would allow someone to only answer a direct tell.
I personally think a better solution would have been to use a menu option that would have disabled f2p chat by default (tells) but you could choose to turn it on if you wanted. That way new players that want to RMT spam would be blocked, but you could turn it on if you wanted to talk to new players, say for setting up a group.
One thing to keep in mind...this change is a financial one. The desire, I would expect, is to draw in new players and get them paying for content.
Yes, it takes a small purchase to get chat function, but how many new players really know that?
I just think a disable option would have been better.
Yeah, I've taken 6 month breaks here and there. Only RMT I recall was how annoying it was to delete the 30+ emails a day. I never received any via tells, I must've came back after they nipped that and forced them to adapt to email. (Was so thankful when email restrictions restored the peace.)
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Originally Posted by Ninja5287
In order for a 'free' player to survive in this game a little longer, they should at least have the ability to whisper to their friends/associates whenever they want to and join in with a big, happy, family; rather than be stuck in the cold, alone in the deep dark corners of loneliness. Even most MMOs do this kind of stuff as well so that the free player doesn't feel like a prisoner to the system!!
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Freems should be able to reply to tells.
Freems should be able to chat to people that have accepted them as friends. But isn't that available via the friends channel?
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Originally Posted by Bright
Yeah. I can kind-of see why they added the communication restrictions, but this one just baffles me... We could drop Inspirations on trial account users with no problem, but it's not allowed with freebies? 'Not a Good Thing in my opinion, and I said as much several times in Beta..
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Agree it should be allowed though.
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Agreed.
Freems should be able to reply to tells. Freems should be able to chat to people that have accepted them as friends. But isn't that available via the friends channel? |
Freems can chat with people on their friends list as long as both parties have the other /friended.
This is why RMT can't spam the friends channel. No one willingly /friends them so no one ever sees anything they say on that channel.
Shooting down the suggestions with SCR or even with 'The Dev's said' is fine with me, shooting it down with 'It'll let RMTer's run wild' makes no sense to me, and I wanted to know if it did to others.
It's entirely possible they just can't code it for one-way communication.
If it was an issue of not being able to code one-way communication they would have just said so. They have told us that on other suggestions in the past when coding was a problem. They aren't going to stop doing that now.