PVP IOs only drop from killing another player, however to get the drop the kill must have also been rep valid (IE the player cannot be on your defeat list, and you cannot be on that players defeat list)
PVP IOs should have a chance of dropping from arena, which is why i say rep valid in the previous statement, as long as you would be eligible for rep then you have a chance for a drop (even though the arena does not award rep points)
PVP IOs have a VERY low drop chance, and when you do get a drop, you also cannot receive another drop for at least 10 minutes even if it was rep valid
in essence, you can either pay an enormous price at the auction house or spend nearly a year saving alignment merits or emp merits
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Yes they drop in the Arena and the PvP zones. Once you kill another player character, there is a 5 minute cool down period where any other kills during that time will not get a drop.|
Originally Posted by retched
I'm trying to figure out where PVP Recipes drop from. I know you can buy them from the Merit markets but wanted to know how they drop. I know there was a bunch of rules regarding their timing and even a point when they didn't drop. Can anyone provide any information?
To further expand the question: - Do PVP recipes drop in Arena? - Do PVP recipes drop in warzones? |
Edit Ok, I could be wrong on the actual timing
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Originally Posted by StarGeek
Yes they drop in the Arena and the PvP zones. Once you kill another player character, there is a 5 minute cool down period where any other kills during that time will not get a drop.
Edit Ok, I could be wrong on the actual timing |
I recall a global 5 minute timer, and a 10 minute timer on people you've already defeated
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So there's a 5 minute wait timer between drops or kills globally?
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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
Well, that's what paragonwiki is for.
I recall a global 5 minute timer, and a 10 minute timer on people you've already defeated |
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10 min for poeple on defeat list, and either 5 or 10 min after you get a drop|
Originally Posted by retched
So there's a 5 minute wait timer between drops or kills globally?
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with freedom coming just make a ton of free accounts and get the toons in BB lvl range then take your lvl 50 and just kill your alt accounts, then just log a new one in after the other one dies, when you get a drop can take those few min to make sure your alts are out of the hosp if they need be (best done with toons that have a self rez)
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So where is this info in the wiki. I've looked for it before and couldn't find it.
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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
Well, that's what paragonwiki is for.
I recall a global 5 minute timer, and a 10 minute timer on people you've already defeated |
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It's actually not there, I tried to look it up before coming here.
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Originally Posted by StarGeek
So where is this info in the wiki. I've looked for it before and couldn't find it.
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So where is this info in the wiki. I've looked for it before and couldn't find it.
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Originally Posted by retched
It's actually not there, I tried to look it up before coming here.
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Only place I could find it was in the April 8, 2009 patch notes.
"Once a PVP IO recipe has been earned, there is a 10 minute timer before the player that earned the recipe can have a chance at earning another recipe."
PvP IOs need a page explaining them in general, not just the category list page. Trouble is there is so little actual data on them and so much misinformation on them. I thought they were tied to PvP rep myself, which is why I said 5 minutes.
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they are tied to rep too|
Originally Posted by StarGeek
Only place I could find it was in the April 8, 2009 patch notes.
"Once a PVP IO recipe has been earned, there is a 10 minute timer before the player that earned the recipe can have a chance at earning another recipe." PvP IOs need a page explaining them in general, not just the category list page. Trouble is there is so little actual data on them and so much misinformation on them. I thought they were tied to PvP rep myself, which is why I said 5 minutes. |
you only get a chance for drop on rep valid kills AND have not gotten a pvp IO within the last 10 minutes
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So it's only if you haven't gotten a PVP IO within the last 10 minutes and there wasn't one awarded in the last 5 minutes?
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
they are tied to rep too
you only get a chance for drop on rep valid kills AND have not gotten a pvp IO within the last 10 minutes |
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the 10 minute timer is for if you got actually got a drop|
Originally Posted by retched
So it's only if you haven't gotten a PVP IO within the last 10 minutes and there wasn't one awarded in the last 5 minutes?
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the 5 min is for the defeat list rep timer (you can get a drop multiple times if you kill several poeple all at once)
rep valid kills just mean that you are not on the opposing persons defeat list and they are not on your defeat list, basically if you got rep for the fight, you had a chance for pvp IO drop (in the arena since it does not have rep, just go by the defeat list)
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Just curious - why would "the GM's get" this thread/post?|
Originally Posted by retched
Hey there I have a question and was hoping I can get a response before the GM's get it.
I'm trying to figure out where PVP Recipes drop from. I know you can buy them from the Merit markets but wanted to know how they drop. I know there was a bunch of rules regarding their timing and even a point when they didn't drop. Can anyone provide any information? To further expand the question: - Do PVP recipes drop in Arena? - Do PVP recipes drop in warzones? |
The question seems perfectly valid and politely asked.
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I assume you're talking about multiple IO purchases. The minimum number of days it takes to get 30 a-merits (and some PvP IOs cost 35 merits, I know) is 20, if you're converting 50 regular merits a day and running 5 tip missions. (I've done this 4 times since January.)|
Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
in essence, you can either pay an enormous price at the auction house or spend nearly a year saving alignment merits or emp merits
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Realistically if you need a Glad Armor proc, you can get one in 20 days. And if you need anything else, you can get a Glad Armor proc in 20 days and sell it off-market to finance your other purchases.
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yeah, single IO isnt too long and prolly about 1-2 months depending on how much you are into the tip mishs|
Originally Posted by Organica
I assume you're talking about multiple IO purchases. The minimum number of days it takes to get 30 a-merits (and some PvP IOs cost 35 merits, I know) is 20, if you're converting 50 regular merits a day and running 5 tip missions. (I've done this 4 times since January.)
Realistically if you need a Glad Armor proc, you can get one in 20 days. And if you need anything else, you can get a Glad Armor proc in 20 days and sell it off-market to finance your other purchases. |
i was assuming for a full set or more
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Because I also sent it to the GM's via in-game petition as well.
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Just curious - why would "the GM's get" this thread/post?
The question seems perfectly valid and politely asked. |
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If you're willing to spend the time grinding and have multiple characters to grind with, you can get a full set in that same 20-60 days. Lots of grinding, but it can be done.
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
yeah, single IO isnt too long and prolly about 1-2 months depending on how much you are into the tip mishs
i was assuming for a full set or more |
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Come I21, you'll be able to earn 5 Empyrean merits a day as well (2 for Keyes and 1 for the other three trials that will be live then). Since that Shield Wall costs 60 Empyrean merits you could theoretically get it in 12 days. Even if you just do a BAF and Lambda each day, that's 2 Empyrean merits, which means you can get enough to buy the Shield Wall in a month.|
Originally Posted by Organica
I assume you're talking about multiple IO purchases. The minimum number of days it takes to get 30 a-merits (and some PvP IOs cost 35 merits, I know) is 20, if you're converting 50 regular merits a day and running 5 tip missions. (I've done this 4 times since January.)
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And at the same time you'll earn enough Astral Merits to get 8 or 9 LotG: +Recharges, which you could sell to help finance the purchase of PvP recipes off the market.
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the underground trial will be worth 2 emps as well for a max of 6 per day|
Originally Posted by Rodion
Come I21, you'll be able to earn 5 Empyrean merits a day as well (2 for Keyes and 1 for the other three trials that will be live then). Since that Shield Wall costs 60 Empyrean merits you could theoretically get it in 12 days. Even if you just do a BAF and Lambda each day, that's 2 Empyrean merits, which means you can get enough to buy the Shield Wall in a month.
And at the same time you'll earn enough Astral Merits to get 8 or 9 LotG: +Recharges, which you could sell to help finance the purchase of PvP recipes off the market. |
and in any case its still WAY too much grinding for a single IO when i can get LOTGs or miracles with only 2 alignment merits which can be done almost once a week on a single toon
Hey there I have a question and was hoping I can get a response before the GM's get it.
I'm trying to figure out where PVP Recipes drop from. I know you can buy them from the Merit markets but wanted to know how they drop. I know there was a bunch of rules regarding their timing and even a point when they didn't drop. Can anyone provide any information?
To further expand the question:
- Do PVP recipes drop in Arena?
- Do PVP recipes drop in warzones?