Arctic Fog + Stealth IO in Hover will use less endurance. For most of PvE, both hit the stealth cap so are equal in terms of invisibility. With Arctic Fog, you get some additional Resistance to Fire, Cold and Energy Damage, plus the Defense in it does not suppress. (AF has 3.75% base Defense, SI has 2.25% after suppression, or 4.5% before suppression.) For High Perception foes, SI is a little better. Arctic Fog uses .26 endurance (before any EndRdx) and Hover uses .0975. Compare that to Superior Invis, which uses .52 endurance before any EndRdx.
Most of the time on my Ill/Cold, I use Arctic Fog + Super Speed (slotted with EndRdx only). I have Superior Invis, but rarely use it -- and I may respec out.
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I didn't take SI. There isnt much in the game that can see through AF and a stealth IO that can't see through SI.
thank you both for the quick replies... i'll go for the AF +stealth io
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The one problem with putting the Stealth IO in Hover is that you will be limited to Hover whenever you want to be invis. If you put a Stealth IO in Sprint (or a vet sprint power), then you don't have to give up speed for Invis. You can use either the Celerity or the cheaper Unbounded Leap.|
Originally Posted by MoonlightSonata
thank you both for the quick replies... i'll go for the AF +stealth io
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I have found that sometimes, especially when up against Rikti, that you don't want to rely upon Invis alone. The Drones ignore Invis. You can Deceive one or two, but when there is a bunch of them, it is best just to pop a Defense Insp and run. If you are stuck in Hover, that may be a problem. (This problem has come to the forefront with the Lady Grey being the WST this week.)
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Well you can skip Super Invis and pickup Group Invis which is a click power, it has 120 sec duration and under a few global recharges and bonus recharges, its easy to get it under perma. I don't know if it stacks on top of Artic Fog but by the power, GI being a click instead of a toggle like SI which will detoggle off AR if you click it, may drop the need for a stealth IO in sprint.
Actually, I just hopped on the forums seeking advice on an ill/cold troller if its better to soft-cap it or not. I have an ill/rad and if played right, no shields are needed. But I am new to ill/cold atm so, I would like a little feedback on the matter to soft-cap the defense on it or not.
unbound purchased and in place, haven't really tried it yet, so we'll see. here's my current build, the ios aren't exactly this lvl, but you get the idea. was wondering if it's possible to beat a GM yet or should i wait till PA is actually perma.
(Edit: she's not actually 48, only 37 atm)
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.942
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Level 48 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Illusion Control
Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Spectral Wounds
(A) Entropic Chaos - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
(3) Entropic Chaos - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
(3) Entropic Chaos - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
(5) Entropic Chaos - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
(5) Entropic Chaos - Chance of Heal Self: Level 35
Level 1: Infrigidate
(A) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Slow: Level 40
(34) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 40
(34) Tempered Readiness - Range/Slow: Level 40
(34) Tempered Readiness - Endurance/Recharge/Slow: Level 40
(36) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Damage/Slow: Level 40
Level 2: Blind
(A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold: Level 30
(7) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold: Level 30
(7) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold: Level 30
(9) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold: Level 30
Level 4: Deceive
(A) Malaise's Illusions - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 40
(9) Malaise's Illusions - Endurance/Confused: Level 40
(11) Malaise's Illusions - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 40
(11) Malaise's Illusions - Confused/Range: Level 40
(13) Malaise's Illusions - Accuracy/Confused/Recharge: Level 40
Level 6: Flash
(A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
(13) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold: Level 30
(15) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold: Level 30
(15) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold: Level 30
Level 8: Snow Storm
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 40
(40) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 40
Level 10: Glacial Shield
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 40
Level 12: Ice Shield
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 40
Level 14: Air Superiority
(A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage: Level 40
(17) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
(17) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 40
(19) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 40
(19) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
Level 16: Hover
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 40
(40) Freebird - +Stealth: Level 40
Level 18: Phantom Army
(A) Call to Arms - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
(21) Call to Arms - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
(21) Call to Arms - Endurance/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
(23) Call to Arms - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
(23) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40
(25) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40
Level 20: Arctic Fog
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 40
(39) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 40
Level 22: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40
(25) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40
(27) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40
(27) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40
(29) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40
(36) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40
Level 24: Group Invisibility
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 40
Level 26: Spectral Terror
(A) Unspeakable Terror - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
(29) Unspeakable Terror - Endurance/Fear: Level 30
(31) Unspeakable Terror - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 30
(31) Unspeakable Terror - Accuracy/Fear/Recharge: Level 30
(31) Unspeakable Terror - Disorient Bonus: Level 30
Level 28: Benumb
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 40
(39) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 40
Level 30: Frostwork
(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
Level 32: Phantasm
(A) Call to Arms - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
(33) Call to Arms - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
(33) Call to Arms - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
(33) Call to Arms - Endurance/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
Level 35: Sleet
(A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 40
(36) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
(37) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 40
(37) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 40
(37) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy): Level 40
Level 38: Heat Loss
(A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge: Level 40
(39) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 40
Level 41: [Empty]
(A) Empty
Level 44: [Empty]
(A) Empty
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: Marshal
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Empty
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Sprint
(A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift
(A) Empty
Level 2: Health
(A) Empty
Level 2: Hurdle
(A) Empty
Level 2: Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 40
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This build isn't a complete build. You still have lvl 41 powers and slots to chose and place. DOH! You have said that above. Okay solo'ing GM's on this AT is not a challenge once it is at lvl 50. You will want to grab the right T4 Incarnates for this build as well.
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Originally Posted by MoonlightSonata
unbound purchased and in place, haven't really tried it yet, so we'll see. here's my current build, the ios aren't exactly this lvl, but you get the idea. was wondering if it's possible to beat a GM yet or should i wait till PA is actually perma.
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I didnt. My sm/l is sitting at 32.5ish so a small purple can cap me, but perma PA means I rarely get aggro.
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Originally Posted by Helluva_Goon
Actually, I just hopped on the forums seeking advice on an ill/cold troller if its better to soft-cap it or not. I have an ill/rad and if played right, no shields are needed. But I am new to ill/cold atm so, I would like a little feedback on the matter to soft-cap the defense on it or not.
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so as it stands now I won't be able to solo GMs yet?
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Originally Posted by Helluva_Goon
This build isn't a complete build. You still have lvl 41 powers and slots to chose and place. DOH! You have said that above. Okay solo'ing GM's on this AT is not a challenge once it is at lvl 50. You will want to grab the right T4 Incarnates for this build as well.
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Perma PA level recharge is all Ill/cold needs to solo AVs/GMs. Rebirth is helpful if you get a random hit when your re-summoning PA.
Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
I enjoy playing in Mids. I specialize in Melee Characters, other AT's usually bore me.
on my ill/cold i like using superior invis, i save a slot on a +stealth IO, and because of the high rech in my build i have perma HL (buff portion) so end is non issue
i also use my ill/cold in a lot of tough/different situations and i like having the invis to basically everything except the baddies which ignore stealth
i think this choice is a matter of personal preference
just wondering from those more experienced at this set... which is better for solo play SuperInvis or Arctic Fog +Stealth IO (in Hover)