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LOL, oh come on.

The reason *I* reacted to your first post was two fold, and it has nothing to do with 'dev worship.'

1) Your tone was hostile for no good reason. It annoys me when people do that. It's funny that you're now complaining about being 'flamed and bashed' while you were the one instigating it. People will react to the tone you set.

2) Your post was so full of ignorance and flat out wrong that it was impossible to ignore. I also found it amusing that you chose to ignore my post but did reply to the Chad's reiterating the same ignorant arguments I just debunked.

September 2010, pre-beta was testing BAF and Lambda... with ONLY the first (common & uncommon) Alpha Incarnate slots.

Shortly after Issue 19 went live (November 30th, 2010), Keyes trials were being tested... again with only the first two tiers of the Alpha Slot. Keyes is very close to what was being tested prior to Issue 20 release. Some of the animations and effects needed to be changed to make them more visible (something that I think still needs improvement on).

It wasn't until mid-January 2011 that pre-beta got tiers 3 & 4 of the Alpha slot, and the other Incarnate Slots. Incarnate trials need a LOT of testing due to special mechanics.

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Here's a question for you, and it's an honest question, not sarcasm.

How much experience do you have in the software industry as a whole? Not games, specifically, but in the software development industry?

The reason I'm asking is because I see what you're saying about "don't split up the teams, have everyone working together on the same project, it'll get done faster," and I understand what you mean. However, I generally see that coming from people who are in industries other than software or engineering.

In a lot of fields, the suggestion you're making of having everyone work on the same project is frequently very true. Having everyone pulling together gets it done faster, and often with more success.

Unfortunately, this doesn't translate properly into the software industry or some of the engineering fields, and the why of it isn't something that many people who aren't in those industries catch on to, just because it's a totally different mindset. I'm getting to see it from an observer's point of view right now, because my husband is authoring the next stage of his company's software platform - and the company is an advertising support firm, so he's having to learn how to deal with the business side of things, and there's all sorts of translation "fun".

In any ongoing software development situation - games, business platforms, third party sales, whatever - there's only so many people who can work on a certain project at once. Once you've reached that saturation point, any other people need to go to a different project. Adding more people is roughly akin to putting them in an already-crowded working kitchen - you start having them trip over each other, get in each others' way, make them wait for the tools they need that are in use by someone else, and risk damaging the end product (yes, I know about the bugs in CoH. It could be worse). It's better to send the extra people to a different kitchen, as it were.

I'm not inclined to just blindly praise the devs. I think they've done an number of things wrong, and I think whomever writes their software needs some serious remedial coursework. "Good enough" is not good enough in MMO development, and I regularly curse that mentality, both in the software and in the game development. However, the decision to have multiple working teams is one that is not only feasible, but is the only supportable one that they could honestly have made, given the number of people they have working on their staff.

I know. But again, you were spouting nonsense and being confrontational so I choose to react again.

Oh for the love of ...

Read what I'm saying. You can have an opinion all you want, but if that opinion doesn't have any basis in reality it is ignorant and wrong .

You are ignorant, because it is obvious from your post that you don't know what you're talking about. That is not a big deal. Noone knows everything. But the fact that you completely disregard someone correcting your wrong assumptions with *fact* and then continue to spout your 'opinion' one post later irks me a little. Because imo there are few things worse than willful ignorance.

Example: You are a project developer and you're turning a piece of land in series of mid to high class residencies.

Do you a) do you what you are suggesting and let all your foundation workers, carpenters, bricklayers, plumbers and electricians work at the same house at the same time. 'Focussing on one project' and only continuing on once it's finished.

Or b) While the foundations of the first and second houses are set, have the foundation workers work on the foundations of the third house at the same time as your masons are working on the walls of the second house, while your carpenters are putting a roof on the finished walls of the first one so the electrician can start putting in the wiring.

I'm keeping the example simple because, as I'm sure you're aware, coördinating a build site is a bit more complex than this. And you know what? So is developing a game.

Dividing your personel up like this happens everywhere. Other game development studios do it, engineering agencies do it, research labs do it. And you know why? Because it is the most efficient way to do things.

You can have your opinion that it would be faster to just throw everyone at the same thing at the same time, but in that case your opnion is wrong.

Commented on a dev post and having an opinion about stuff apparently makes people ignorant to you. It seems to be impossible to carry on a conversation with half the people on these boards nowdays. You continue to prove that with the rudeness of responses calling me ignorant, telling me I don't know what I'm talking about because I don't have facts. Well you don't have facts to prove that I don't have facts buddy. You have the same information that I do unless you happen to work with them. But I can tell from your posts that you think you have all the answers here and are so sure of yourself so theirs no use for an ignorant person such as myself in trying to carry on an intelligent conversation with a person of your intellect.

*Walks in the other direction*

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Before this post I thought you were just being intentionally stuborn. Now ... well, I'll leave it at that.

What "usual 3 months"? 3 months is actually significantly faster than the average number of days between issues over the entire life of CoH.

In fact, the average amount of time between issue releases over CoH's history thus far has been 126 days; the smallest gap between issue releases historically is the gap between issues 5 and 6 (57 days), and the longest to date was the gap between issues 16 and 17 (225 days).

You should have read the signature on the poster. It tells you all you need to know about how receptive they are to feedback on the ideas they put out on the internet, and how thin a skin they have.

Really? Four days later, and you are trying to stir up PANCAKEPANCAKEPANCAKEPANCAKE again?

Did that make you feel important? Did you sleep better that night after posting this?

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