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My MFing Build

AIB

By AIB,
Posted on: 2011-07-19 07:29 in Kheldians

 

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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
Range IO or no, the target caps are still different. Em caps at 10, Det at 16.

I'd gladly give your build a once over. PM or email it.
Ahh, I hadn't realized the target caps were different. That said-- have you ever hit 16 targets with Detonation? I'm not sure I've hit 10.

Thanks for your offer! I will give Mids another shot when I'm done downloading the update.

EDIT: Ugh. It wants me to pick slots in powers I have one-slotted thanks to the level 6 respec trick.

EDIT #2: Okay, never mind. I figured out how to make Mids do what I want it to do.

 

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Originally Posted by Mister Gerald View Post
Ahh, I hadn't realized the target caps were different. That said-- have you ever hit 16 targets with Detonation? I'm not sure I've hit 10.
Oh yeah, it's not that hard when the missions are set for x8 and you bunch 'em up with Grav Emanation.

Where to now?
Check out all my guides and fiction pieces on my blog.
The MFing Warshade | The Last Rule of Tanking | The Got Dam Mastermind
Everything Dark Armor | The Softcap
don'T attempt to read tHis mEssaGe, And believe Me, it is not a codE.

 

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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
Oh yeah, it's not that hard when the missions are set for x8 and you bunch 'em up with Grav Emanation.
Ahh. I do a lot of teaming, so I find that's not as easy for me to accomplish. Being on Pinnacle means I can't exactly be too choosy about who I team with (but I WILL refuse to team with more than one Dom and/or Controller, especially if one of them is plant-based. I hate it when people decide I need rescuing because I'm surrounded. HELLO, I'm the MFing Warshade and I'm surrounded ON PURPOSE).

Sorry, didn't mean to get all rantypants. I sent you a PM. Thanks again!

 

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Originally Posted by Mister Gerald View Post
Ahh. I do a lot of teaming, so I find that's not as easy for me to accomplish. Being on Pinnacle means I can't exactly be too choosy about who I team with (but I WILL refuse to team with more than one Dom and/or Controller, especially if one of them is plant-based. I hate it when people decide I need rescuing because I'm surrounded. HELLO, I'm the MFing Warshade and I'm surrounded ON PURPOSE).

Sorry, didn't mean to get all rantypants. I sent you a PM. Thanks again!
Yeah, I tend to run missions with my BF, and he always says "heal yourself" or "you're gonna die!" when I'm surrounded and dropping health fast (he's just 3 feet away - he can get quite loud about it...)

I don't think he realizes I'm just setting myself up to use Stygian Return for the invulnerabilty bonus. I also don't think he realizes his blaster's knockbacks don't really do much for me when I'm setting up an eclipse and mire.

 

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Originally Posted by Glory Glory View Post
Yeah, I tend to run missions with my BF, and he always says "heal yourself" or "you're gonna die!" when I'm surrounded and dropping health fast (he's just 3 feet away - he can get quite loud about it...)

I don't think he realizes I'm just setting myself up to use Stygian Return for the invulnerabilty bonus. I also don't think he realizes his blaster's knockbacks don't really do much for me when I'm setting up an eclipse and mire.
That boy needs an MFing education.

Where to now?
Check out all my guides and fiction pieces on my blog.
The MFing Warshade | The Last Rule of Tanking | The Got Dam Mastermind
Everything Dark Armor | The Softcap
don'T attempt to read tHis mEssaGe, And believe Me, it is not a codE.

 

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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
That boy needs an MFing education.
Knockback makes me feel like I'm about to eat a nice big meal and then some jackass accidentally flips the table.

 

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So my only experience with a warshade has been getting this guy to level 32...its been an interesting ride and its taken years, due to my bipolar interest in kheldians, but every time i read dechs guide i wanna be interested. Plus i see how useful high level kheldians are. So i am working on a new build and once i23 kicks off will likely push my warshade to 50, or likely before hand. This is based mostly off Dechs recommendations in his guide, however, i added my own twist a bit. Now feel free to tear this apart please. I slotted for def, but am seeing its really not worth it at all with how lilttle defense i come up with. I have a decent amount of recharge so far....and am unsure if i missed out on some good power choices. So with the defense powers, i would like to keep them as LOTG mules, but that leaves about 7 slots open to play with. So please critique me and tell me what you think, thanks!

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DaSlayas War: Level 50 Science Warshade
Primary Power Set: Umbral Blast
Secondary Power Set: Umbral Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Concealment

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 1: Absorption -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GA-3defTpProc(37)
Level 2: Ebon Eye -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 4: Super Speed -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 8: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(11), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(36)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 12: Sunless Mire -- Oblit-Acc/Rchg(A), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(13), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(13), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(15)
Level 14: Shadow Cloak -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(17), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(36)
Level 16: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(25), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(25)
Level 18: Gravity Well -- BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Hold(19), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(19), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(21), Dmg-I(21), Hectmb-Dmg(23)
Level 20: Black Dwarf -- ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(23), P'Shift-End%(50)
Level 22: Stygian Circle -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), EndMod-I(40), Dct'dW-Heal(42), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(43), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(43), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 24: Nebulous Form -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 26: Gravitic Emanation -- Amaze-ToHitDeb%(A), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(27), Amaze-Stun(27), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(29), Amaze-Stun/Rchg(29)
Level 28: Unchain Essence -- KheldiansG-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), KheldiansG-Acc/Dmg(31), KheldiansG-Dmg/Rchg(31), KheldiansG-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), KheldiansG-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 30: Inky Aspect -- Dsrnt-I(A)
Level 32: Dark Extraction -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), S'bndAl-Build%(34), S'bndAl-Dmg/Rchg(34), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 35: Stygian Return -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Eclipse -- Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(39), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(39), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(39), Acc-I(40)
Level 41: Quasar -- Oblit-%Dam(A), Oblit-Dmg(46), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(46), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(48)
Level 44: Grant Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 47: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Shadow Slip -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Dark Sustenance
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Shadow Step -- Jnt-EndRdx/Rng(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 10: Shadow Recall -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova Bolt -- KheldiansG-Rchg/FormBuff(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova Detonation -- Posi-Dam%(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(9), Posi-Dmg/Rng(11), Posi-Acc/Dmg(36), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(37)
Level 6: Dark Nova Emanation -- Posi-Dam%(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), Posi-Acc/Dmg(7), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(9)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Antagonize -- Taunt-I(A)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Drain -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(45), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(45), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Dct'dW-Heal(46)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Mire -- Oblit-Acc/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(3), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(3), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(5)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Smite -- Hectmb-Dam%(A), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(17), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(50), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Step -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Strike -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(33), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
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Well, that amount of defense combined with Eclipse's resistance would make you pretty durable... except that most of it's coming from toggles, so you won't have them in forms. And since forms are where most of your attacks are, it's where you'll probably spend most of your time. And that just won't do.

Having those toggles as LotG mules is fine. (My build has most of the same powers, in fact.) But if you want defense on a triform, it's pretty much got to be set bonuses. If you, say, put those slots into the PBAoEs for full sets of Obliteration, that'd give you a pretty respectable melee defense. Also some more recharge. You've already got quite a bit of that, but that's okay.

I'd suggest dropping the Doctered Wounds set in Stygian Circle. It doesn't need that much enhancement, and the set bonuses aren't that exciting. And you should at least put a bit of damage in Black Dwarf Drain.

Unless you really like having both the starting blasts, you could replace one with Gravity Shield, put one of the +def uniques there, and save a slot.

-Morgan.

 

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Morgan thanks for the comments......here is what i have come up with, after tooling around a bit on the forums for ideas and staring at my build....this build i have come up with now has me excited to play my WS again...and since i have just wrapped up getting my staff/dark brute to +3 incarnate,its time to WS it up! a few questions though...i managed 34.8% S/L Def and gave up slight recharge, not enough to really affect me though, at least i dont think... and if i stay in human form for whatever reason i can turn on Maneuvers and Shadow Cloak for 42% DEF....but i digress...questions are....

1. In your experiences which is a better attack power Ebon Eye or Dark Nova Blast for ST....i can slot one or the other with entropic chaos's, just wanna know which one you guys would recommend......

2. I switched Hecatomb to Gravity well instead of Black Dwarf Smite....again, which attack do you guys find more useful and better?

Oh also a side note i plan on enhancement boosting HASTEN, Eclipse for accuracy and i can always bump up the Kinetic combats to make them stronger.... thats it for now, thanks for the help again guys!!


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DaSlayas War: Level 50 Science Warshade
Primary Power Set: Umbral Blast
Secondary Power Set: Umbral Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Concealment

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Ebon Eye -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A)
Level 1: Absorption -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 2: Gravity Shield -- GA-3defTpProc(A)
Level 4: Super Speed -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 8: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 12: Sunless Mire -- Oblit-Acc/Rchg(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Oblit-%Dam(13), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(15), Oblit-Dmg(25), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36)
Level 14: Shadow Cloak -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 16: Kick -- KntkC'bat-Knock%(A), KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(48), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(50), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 18: Gravity Well -- Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(19), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(21), Hectmb-Dmg(23)
Level 20: Black Dwarf -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(23), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(40), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 22: Stygian Circle -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 24: Tough -- RctvArm-EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(42), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(46), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(46)
Level 26: Gravitic Emanation -- Amaze-ToHitDeb%(A), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(27), Amaze-Stun(27), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(29), Amaze-Stun/Rchg(29)
Level 28: Unchain Essence -- SKheldiansG-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SKheldiansG-Acc/Dmg(31), SKheldiansG-Dmg/Rchg(31), SKheldiansG-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), SKheldiansG-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 30: Tactics -- Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit(40)
Level 32: Dark Extraction -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), S'bndAl-Build%(34), S'bndAl-Dmg/Rchg(34), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 35: Stygian Return -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Eclipse -- Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(39), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(39), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(39)
Level 41: Burnout -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Grant Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 47: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(48), Rec'dRet-ToHit(48)
Level 49: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- KntkC'bat-Knock%(A), KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(17), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 1: Dark Sustenance
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Shadow Step -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 10: Shadow Recall -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova Blast -- Entrpc-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Entrpc-Acc/Dmg(21), Entrpc-Dmg/Rchg(43), Entrpc-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Entrpc-Heal%(46)
Level 6: Dark Nova Bolt -- KheldiansG-Rchg/FormBuff(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova Detonation -- Posi-Dam%(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(9), Posi-Dmg/Rng(11), Posi-Acc/Dmg(36), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(37)
Level 6: Dark Nova Emanation -- Posi-Dam%(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), Posi-Acc/Dmg(7), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(9)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Antagonize -- Taunt-I(A)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Drain -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(36), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(45), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Mire -- Oblit-Acc/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(3), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Oblit-Dmg(5), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Oblit-%Dam(25)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Smite -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(17), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Step -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Strike -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(33), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
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