Nuke + Heat Loss
Which nuke? To make best use of HL, you should be in melee range. With Fire or any of the pbaoe nukes, that's where you are anyway. If you're using a ranged nuke, well, you'll want to still be in melee for the HL. As for how to do it, target a boss and be quick about it. If you're Energy Blast you may be sort of screwed since you'll have scattered all the mobs.
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You'll need both HL well slotted for end mod and to hit as many targets as possible. Each enemy hit sends out a buff aura and one radiates out from you, so the way to get as big a buff as possible is to get right in the middle of the spawn. That way, you'll get the buffs off every enemy in range as well as the one coming off yourself.
With enough enemies and endmod slotted HL you should be able to recover 4-5 end a second even with the crash debuff. As Deacon said, several of the nukes require you to be in melee anyway.
The Melee Teaming Guide for Melee Mans
Each HL buff aura gives you 50 recovery unslotted, 95 slotted up. So the break even point is around 9-10 enemies hit in order to beat the -1000 a nuke crash caused once you have it slotted up.
If you have numeric stacking on your Status bar below your XP meter you'll be able to see how many HL buffs you've managed to garner on yourself.
also, it seems there might be a touch of confusion here...
heat loss BEFORE you nuke.
nuked mobs are hopefully dead, and you dont have end to cast heat loss anyways.
I find 8+ mobs is the break point for my cold/ice def that I can sleet, ice storm, heat loss, then blizzard.
Keep in mind that this will still detoggle you 50% of the time. if you're lucky you'll catch a tick of end as your bar drops and you wont detoggle, but this is rare.
I have an elec/cold corr. Never got +recovery post nuke give more than the -recovery.
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Oooooooohhhhhhh!!!
Almost respecced out of my nuke. Hmm will go practise some more
Oh and thanks for the guide, Silas
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also, it seems there might be a touch of confusion here...
heat loss BEFORE you nuke. nuked mobs are hopefully dead, and you dont have end to cast heat loss anyways. I find 8+ mobs is the break point for my cold/ice def that I can sleet, ice storm, heat loss, then blizzard. Keep in mind that this will still detoggle you 50% of the time. if you're lucky you'll catch a tick of end as your bar drops and you wont detoggle, but this is rare. |
The Melee Teaming Guide for Melee Mans
also, you dont have to pop a blue, or wait 10-15 seconds for your end to come back to cast heat loss afterwards
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While I see the advantage of using HL after nuking because the +end will fill your bar, I'd still recommend using it beforehand.
Nukes are pretty certain to kill most if not all of the minions in a spawn, so you'll get a much smaller +rec buff. Additionally, the extra -res helps a lot on the lts and bosses.
The Melee Teaming Guide for Melee Mans
Heat Loss has both +recovery and +endurance buffs. Only catch (and why folks say use it before hand) is it costs a bit over 15 endurance to cast, which unless you have your +recovery up over +1000% to counter the nuke's crash means you'll have no endurance to use it post nuke until the nukes recovery debuff ends (or you pop a blue for enough end to use HL).
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i forget, does it detoggle you if you get an 11 buff HL and nuke? i know if you pop a CAB sometimes you can hold on to your toggles
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I remember reading this in a guide (could be Silas') about refilling one's blue bar after nuking with a well-timed application of heat loss. But I can't seem to pull it off; on the few successful attempts, I don't know what I did right! Can someone help shed some light on this please?
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