upgrading new video card vs mora RAM?
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Posted on: 2011-07-15 16:32 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
Can you tell us the full specs of what you have? That will help with suggestions and possibilities. Also, budget for this?
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Honestly I don't even know. I know it's a duel core only has 1 gig of RAM using the on board video card. Like I said not tech savy. My other computer died so I got this one from my friend for 50 bucks.
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OK I was gonna upgrade but can only do 1 or the other at this particular moment in time. I know RAM will increase my load speed and video card would make for a smoother gameplay with higher graphics turned up.
Here's the thing I only have 1 gig of RAM right now and my load speeds seem too slow to bare sometimes so I was just gonna get more RAM but honestly I'm not really tech savy. What would you tech experts get first and would a better video card have anything to do with load times at all? Thanks for any help. |
- Current Motherboard
- Current Video Card
- Budget (Would be helpful to know your desired budget and your max budget if a couple extra bucks would lead to a BIG jump in performance.)
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Motherboard
Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC. Lancaster8 1.04
Bus Clock: 200 megahertz
BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 5.16 10/01/2007
Video card
name- Intel(R) 82945G Express chipset family
manufacturer- Intel Corporation
chip type- 82945G Express chipset family
Dac type- Internal
Approx total memory- 251mb
current display mode- 1024x768 (32 bit)(75 hz)
monitor- generic pnp monitor
OK I used a few websites/programs to help me find this info and I hope it's everything you need.
Currently I only have about 80 dollars to spend until like a week and a half down the road when I'll have about 250 dollars so I'm just kinda impatient and was wondering what would be better to improve my situation (RAMvsVideo card). As I said earlier my load times are to slow to bare sometimes and I would really like to solve that first.
I didn't look into the specs of the board you have, but with the $80 you have you could easily do RAM first and then do the card when you have the extra. Right now the on board video is probably what's slowing you down the most! If you were close by, I would give you a card. I have an HD5750 laying around that would work like butter compared to your on board. heh
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OK for now I decided on then RAM and installed it ran around some in COH load into a few places/missions and all I gotta say is wow. It not only made my load times like a million times faster but I aint lagging anymore in zones like grandville and stuff so sweet. Now I just need a new video card to turn the graphics off minimum.
When buying a new video card, remember to take into account how much power your power supply can give to it. A lot of recent cards require a 600-700W PSU.
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Your designator for the motherboard isn't specific enough for us to figure out what the board is. You may need to crack the case and take a look at the actual model number silk-screened on the board itself.
This way we can verify what sort of memory you're using and the type of motherboard connectors available to you for a video card.
However. With $80 now, and another $170 coming, I'd say do BOTH. That's a comfortable enough budget number to do so.
Also, as noted, get a look at the power rating of your power supply. This way we can suggest something that's within your system's power envelope.
Even if we have to get you a power supply to accommodate a new video card, I'm confident we can do it within budget.
Just about ANYTHING is going to be better than your current, onboard, Intel video solution.
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Well with a 945 we know it's an Intel CPU and he should have access to a PCIe x16 slot. That CPU may still be a Pentium 4 family or early Core 2 family.
More memory will speed up the load times, smooth out your frame rate by reducing swap file thrashing (which you will get with very low memory) but won't increase your current frame rate (while standing around) or allow you to raise the graphic settings.
A better video card should allow you to raise the graphic settings and improve your frame rate but with only 1GB of system memory, you graphics will still stutter whenever the swap file thrashes. One unexpected problem for people upgrading their video card is the fact the better ones all require a more substantial power supply than what normally comes in your basic store bought Dell/HP/Compaq PC. Some of these PCs are a real pain when it comes to upgrading the power supply as well.
To give us a better idea what you have let me suggest that you post the output from DxDiag, at least the first part up to the System Devices, just after the Disk Drive section. I'm suggesting this instead of "our" CoHHelper application because you don't have to download anything and it sounds like you aren't super PC savvy. This will give us a more complete understanding of what you have instead of us playing 20 questions.
All you need to do to run DxDiag is select Start in the Windows Taskbar, select "Run..." in the left column, type in dxdiag in the Open: field and click OK. That should run Microsoft's DirectX Diagnostic Tool. Once the little progress bar disappears, press the "Save All Information..." button and you will prompted where to save it. Then post that file here.
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More info would be nice for us to help you on this. Also, what country are you in? (Sometimes we forget that many players in CoH are not in the US)
1 GB to 2GB can make a modest difference, but don't expect a hot rod. I would assume you are running Windows XP or Linux? 
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1 GB to 2GB can make a modest difference
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Well with a 945 we know it's an Intel CPU and he should have access to a PCIe x16 slot. That CPU may still be a Pentium 4 family or early Core 2 family.
More memory will speed up the load times, smooth out your frame rate by reducing swap file thrashing (which you will get with very low memory) but won't increase your current frame rate (while standing around) or allow you to raise the graphic settings. A better video card should allow you to raise the graphic settings and improve your frame rate but with only 1GB of system memory, you graphics will still stutter whenever the swap file thrashes. One unexpected problem for people upgrading their video card is the fact the better ones all require a more substantial power supply than what normally comes in your basic store bought Dell/HP/Compaq PC. Some of these PCs are a real pain when it comes to upgrading the power supply as well. To give us a better idea what you have let me suggest that you post the output from DxDiag, at least the first part up to the System Devices, just after the Disk Drive section. I'm suggesting this instead of "our" CoHHelper application because you don't have to download anything and it sounds like you aren't super PC savvy. This will give us a more complete understanding of what you have instead of us playing 20 questions. All you need to do to run DxDiag is select Start in the Windows Taskbar, select "Run..." in the left column, type in dxdiag in the Open: field and click OK. That should run Microsoft's DirectX Diagnostic Tool. Once the little progress bar disappears, press the "Save All Information..." button and you will prompted where to save it. Then post that file here. |
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System Information
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Time of this report: 7/17/2011, 10:32:51
Machine name: ASHLEY-PC
Operating System: Windows Vista Home Premium (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_gdr.100218-0019)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Compaq-Presario
System Model: GX617AA-A2L SR5310F
BIOS: BIOS Date: 10/01/07 17:10:01 Ver: 5.16
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2140 @ 1.60GHz (2 CPUs), ~1.6GHz
Memory: 2038MB RAM
Page File: 883MB used, 3415MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6000.16386 32bit Unicode
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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No sound card was found. If one is expected, you should install a sound driver provided by the hardware manufacturer.
Input Tab: No problems found.
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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
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Display Devices
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Card name: Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip type: Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
DAC type: Internal
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2772&SUBSYS_2A59103C&REV_02
Display Memory: 256 MB
Dedicated Memory: 0 MB
Shared Memory: 256 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Driver Name: igdumd32.dll
Driver Version: 7.14.0010.1461 (English)
DDI Version: 9Ex
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 3/25/2008 16:44:28, 3301376 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
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Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x2772
SubSys ID: 0x2A59103C
Revision ID: 0x0002
Revision ID: 0x0002
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
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DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
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Sound Devices
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Description:
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Default Voice Playback: No
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HW Accel Level: Emulation Only
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: Microsoft Wireless Desktop Receiver 3.1A
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x00F1
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Device Name: Microsoft Wireless Desktop Receiver 3.1A
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
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FF Driver: n/a
Poll w/ Interrupt: No
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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x27CB
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 7/4/2011 04:03:56, 192000 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 7/4/2011 04:03:56, 5888 bytes
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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x00F1
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 7/4/2011 03:52:34, 15872 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/4/2011 03:52:34, 35384 bytes
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+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 7/4/2011 03:52:34, 54784 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/4/2011 03:52:34, 35384 bytes
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+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x00F1
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 7/4/2011 03:52:34, 15872 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/4/2011 03:52:34, 34360 bytes
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+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 11/2/2006 05:50:28, 50792 bytes
| Driver: sermouse.sys, 7/4/2011 03:52:34, 19968 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/4/2011 03:52:34, 34360 bytes
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 182.4 GB
Total Space: 238.5 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: ST3250820AS ATA Device
Drive: D:
Model: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH20NS10 ATA Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.00.6000.16386 (English), 11/2/2006 04:51:44, 67072 bytes
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System Devices
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Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DF
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27DF&SUBSYS_2A59103C&REV_01\3&115 83659&0&F9
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\intelide.sys, 6.00.6000.16632 (English), 7/4/2011 04:07:15, 17464 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 6.00.6000.16632 (English), 7/4/2011 04:07:15, 45112 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 6.00.6000.16632 (English), 7/4/2011 04:07:15, 21560 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ataport.sys, 6.00.6000.16632 (English), 7/4/2011 04:07:15, 109624 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller - 27DA
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27DA&SUBSYS_2A59103C&REV_01\3&115 83659&0&FB
Driver: n/a
Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27D8&SUBSYS_2A59103C&REV_01\3&115 83659&0&D8
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.00.6000.16386 (English), 7/4/2011 08:46:55, 53760 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port - 27D2
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27D2&SUBSYS_2A59103C&REV_01\3&115 83659&0&E1
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.00.6000.16386 (English), 11/2/2006 05:50:57, 140392 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port - 27D0
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27D0&SUBSYS_2A59103C&REV_01\3&115 83659&0&E0
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.00.6000.16386 (English), 11/2/2006 05:50:57, 140392 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 27CC
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27CC&SUBSYS_2A59103C&REV_01\3&115 83659&0&EF
Driver: n/a
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CB
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27CB&SUBSYS_2A59103C&REV_01\3&115 83659&0&EB
Driver: n/a
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CA
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27CA&SUBSYS_2A59103C&REV_01\3&115 83659&0&EA
Driver: n/a
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C9
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27C9&SUBSYS_2A59103C&REV_01\3&115 83659&0&E9
Driver: n/a
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C8
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27C8&SUBSYS_2A59103C&REV_01\3&115 83659&0&E8
Driver: n/a
Name: Intel(R) 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller - 27C0
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27C0&SUBSYS_2A59103C&REV_01\3&115 83659&0&FA
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\intelide.sys, 6.00.6000.16632 (English), 7/4/2011 04:07:15, 17464 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 6.00.6000.16632 (English), 7/4/2011 04:07:15, 45112 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 6.00.6000.16632 (English), 7/4/2011 04:07:15, 21560 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ataport.sys, 6.00.6000.16632 (English), 7/4/2011 04:07:15, 109624 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Controller - 27B8
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27B8&SUBSYS_2A59103C&REV_01\3&115 83659&0&F8
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\msisadrv.sys, 6.00.6000.16386 (English), 11/2/2006 05:49:20, 13928 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2772&SUBSYS_2A59103C&REV_02\3&115 83659&0&10
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\igdkmd32.sys, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:44:24, 2307072 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igdumd32.dll, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:44:28, 3301376 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\iglhxs32.vp, 3/25/2008 17:46:42, 32896 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\iglhxo32.vp, 3/25/2008 15:19:34, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\iglhxc32.vp, 10/18/2006 22:10:57, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\hccutils.dll, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:25:00, 106496 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxsrvc.dll, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:25:26, 48640 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxsrvc.exe, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 17:07:36, 256536 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxpph.dll, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:25:46, 204800 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxcpl.cpl, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:25:36, 122880 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxcfg.exe, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 17:07:24, 539160 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxdev.dll, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:24:54, 204800 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxdo.dll, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:25:06, 135168 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxtray.exe, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 17:07:40, 141848 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxzoom.exe, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 17:07:44, 170520 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\hkcmd.exe, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 17:07:22, 166424 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxress.dll, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:24:42, 3293184 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxpers.exe, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 17:07:34, 133656 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxTMM.dll, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:26:12, 241664 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxext.exe, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 17:07:26, 170520 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxexps.dll, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:25:38, 24576 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\oemdspif.dll, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:25:54, 69632 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrara.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:50, 159744 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrchs.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:50, 114688 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrcht.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:50, 110592 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrdan.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:52, 176128 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrdeu.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:52, 192512 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrenu.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:24:42, 172032 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxresp.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:52, 188416 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrfin.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:54, 176128 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrfra.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:54, 184320 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrheb.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:54, 155648 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrita.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:54, 188416 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrjpn.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:56, 131072 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrkor.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:56, 126976 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrnld.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:56, 188416 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrnor.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:56, 176128 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrplk.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:56, 180224 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrptb.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:58, 180224 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrptg.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:58, 180224 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrrus.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:58, 180224 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrsky.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:58, 176128 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrslv.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:58, 172032 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrsve.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:29:00, 176128 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrtha.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:29:00, 163840 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrcsy.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:52, 176128 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrell.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:52, 192512 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrhun.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:28:54, 184320 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrtrk.lrc, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:29:00, 172032 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ig4icd32.dll, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:33:26, 2420736 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ig4dev32.dll, 7.14.0010.1461 (English), 3/25/2008 16:33:48, 2174976 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxCoIn_v1461.dll, 3/25/2008 16:56:08, 147456 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 945G/GZ/P/PL Processor to I/O Controller - 2770
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2770&SUBSYS_2A59103C&REV_02\3&115 83659&0&00
Driver: n/a
Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_2A59103C&REV_E1\3&115 83659&0&F0
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.00.6000.16386 (English), 11/2/2006 05:50:57, 140392 bytes
Name: Realtek RTL8101 Family PCI-E Fast Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0)
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8136&SUBSYS_2A59103C&REV_01\4&1AD B76D9&0&00E1
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\Rtlh86.sys, 6.1837.0926.2006 (English), 11/2/2006 03:30:56, 44544 bytes
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DirectShow Filters
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DirectShow Filters:
QuickTime Audio Decoder Filter,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,,
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MP3 Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
QuickTime Video Decoder Filter,0x00600800,1,1,,
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Full Screen Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6000.16986
Multiple File Output,0x00200000,2,2,WMM2FILT.dll,
WMT Black Frame Generator,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
WMT Import Filter,0x00200000,0,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,,6.06.6000.16386
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,,6.06.6000.16986
WMT Interlacer,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,,11.00.6000.6324
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,11.00.6000.6324
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16986
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16986
Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Decoder,0x005fffff,2,4,msmpeg2vdec.dll,11.00.5840. 6324
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6000.16919
WMT Format Conversion,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
9x8Resize,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
DivX AAC Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,daac.ax,8.08.0000.41966
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6000. 16386
WMT Virtual Source,0x00200000,0,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Microsoft TV Caption Decoder,0x00200001,1,0,MSTVCapn.dll,6.00.6000.1638 6
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16986
CBVA DMO wrapper filter,0x00200000,1,1,cbva.dll,6.00.6000.16919
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,,6.06.6000.16986
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16986
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.6000.16386
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6000.1691 9
WMT AudioAnalyzer,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Encoder,0x00200000,2,0,msmpeg2enc.dll,11.00.6000.6 324
Stretch Video,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,,6.06.6000.16986
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,,6.06.6000.16986
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,,6.06.6000.16386
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6000.16986
Microsoft MPEG-2 Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,11.00.6000.6 324
Frame Eater,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Allocator Fix,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16986
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,,6.06.6000.16986
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6000.16386
Capture ASF Writer,0x00200000,0,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16386
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,,6.06.6000.16986
DivX H.264 Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,DivXDecH264.ax,9.00.0001.00 21
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,,6.06.6000.16986
DivX Demux Filter,0x00600000,0,1,DirectShowDemuxFilter.dll,1. 00.0003.0111
Bitmap Generate,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Proxy Sink,0x00200000,1,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
DivX Decoder Filter,0x00800000,1,1,DivXDec.ax,7.01.0001.0014
Proxy Source,0x00200000,0,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,,11.00.6000.6324
DivX Demux Filter (Unrestricted Edition),0x00600000,0,1,DirectShowDemuxFilter.dll, 1.00.0003.0111
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.00.6000.1638 6
WMT Sample Information Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6000.16386
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,,6.06.6000.16386
WMT DV Extract,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16386
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,,6.06.6000.16986
Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,2,0,msmpeg2enc.dll,11.00.6000.6 324
WST Pager,0x00800000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.6000.16386
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6000 .16919
Record Queue,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16386
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.6000.1 6386
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.6000.16386
WMT Log Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.6000.16919
Microsoft AC3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msac3enc.dll,11.00.6000.632 4
WMT Virtual Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.600 0.16386
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,,6.06.6000.16386
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6000.16386
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16986
WMT MuxDeMux Filter,0x00200000,0,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
NetBridge,0x00200000,2,0,netbridge.dll,6.01.6000.1 6386
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,,6.06.6000.16986
WMT Volume,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16986
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16986
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16986
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16986
WMT VIH2 Fix,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Microsoft MPEG-1/DD Audio Decoder,0x005fffff,1,1,msmpeg2adec.dll,11.00.5840. 6324
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6000.16386
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,,6.06.6000.16986
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,,6.06.6000.16986
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,,6.06.6000.16986
Media Center Extender Encryption Filter,0x00200000,2,2,Mcx2Filter.dll,6.01.6000.169 19
AudioRecorder WAV Dest,0x00200000,0,0,,6.00.6000.16386
AudioRecorder Wave Form,0x00200000,0,0,,6.00.6000.16386
SoundRecorder Null Renderer,0x00200000,0,0,,6.00.6000.16386
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16386
WMT Switch Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
wow this is a ***** to post keeps giving me error using to many *^08 characters so I hope thats all you need.
Quote:
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Your designator for the motherboard isn't specific enough for us to figure out what the board is. You may need to crack the case and take a look at the actual model number silk-screened on the board itself.
This way we can verify what sort of memory you're using and the type of motherboard connectors available to you for a video card. However. With $80 now, and another $170 coming, I'd say do BOTH. That's a comfortable enough budget number to do so. Also, as noted, get a look at the power rating of your power supply. This way we can suggest something that's within your system's power envelope. Even if we have to get you a power supply to accommodate a new video card, I'm confident we can do it within budget. Just about ANYTHING is going to be better than your current, onboard, Intel video solution. |
OK i opened my computer to check the motherboard hopefully this is right.
CT:P AAHD 4B U9 VD DXV
PN:5189-0462 REV:A01
power supply 100-127v- 6A
200-240v- 3A
output max 250v
The power supply has a switch on the back to go between the two.
Quote:
GAH, forgot to copy before hitting send and the forum ate it.|
Originally Posted by Lucky666
OK i opened my computer to check the motherboard hopefully this is right.
CT:P AAHD 4B U9 VD DXV PN:5189-0462 REV:A01 power supply 100-127v- 6A 200-240v- 3A output max 250v The power supply has a switch on the back to go between the two. |
Okay, found your system. Compaq Presario SR5310F.
According to my research, the default power supply is a dinky 250W unit.
Translation: You would NEED to buy a new power supply.
Here's my suggestion, IF the stuff is available in your area (not sure where you're located at in the world).
Antec High Current Gamer 520W.
For once, Newegg doesn't have decent documentation of the various power connectors. Luckily Antec's manual does.
Here's the important ones:
- 20+4 Pin connector (Your main power connector to the board)
- 4+4 pin ATX-12V connector Provides additional power to the 12V rail on newer ATX boards. Connectors are 4, 6, and 8 pin variants. You can handle them all.
- Dual 6+2 pin PCI-E connectors. Some PCI-E video cards require 1-2 PCI-E connectors. Some will be 6-pin, some will be 8-pin. This PSU will do either or.
My suggestion would be the Radeon 6770.
With a bit of stretching you MIGHT be able to get a 6850 (mail-in rebates, money left over from), but you're running into problems with your CPU being able to keep the graphics card properly busy and your performance plateaus out and isn't really any better than a 6770.
You could probably wangle a GTX 460. But the performance difference isn't really worth the price increase.
Sorry, tried to provide links, but the forum is choking like a 6-pack a day smoker living downwind from a forest fire.
Clicking on the linked image above will take you off the City of Heroes site. However, the guides will be linked back here.
ok for the power supply I found this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...G-_-17-151-094
and the video card I found this
http://shop.amd.com/US/_layouts/shop...H®ion=us-en
What do you guys think? A-OK?
Quote:
PSU is exactly what I was suggesting.|
Originally Posted by Lucky666
ok for the power supply I found this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...G-_-17-151-094 and the video card I found this http://shop.amd.com/US/_layouts/shop...H®ion=us-en What do you guys think? A-OK? |
The link from the AMD site shows Newegg as the cheapest.
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ok cool guys tyvm everyone.
Damn forum ate my post. 
First, according to the DxDiag output you have 2GB of RAM. That's good. What's bad is your system only has 2 RAM slots so I'm guessing they are both filled. Also the motherboard itself can't handle more than 2GB of memory (limitation of the Intel 945GC chipset). Sorry, no memory upgrade path for you but you may be able to get back the 256MB the integrated graphics is stealing from main memory. It's better than nothing.
Now due to the fact it's an Compaq/HP case, I wouldn't have recommended the Antec HCG-520 power supply because of it's size, which is 0.8" longer than the "standard" dimensions for a PC power supply. No big deal if you are building yourself or if the case was even a standard microATX sized case but prebuilt HP/Dell/Compaq PCs seem to have cases chosen not for convenience of assembly but by how many can fit in a shipping container.
I would recommend either the Antec Earthwatts EA-430D (430 watts) or EA-500D (500 watts) power supply as they are standard size. Right now the EA-500D is a bit cheaper than the EA-430D but prices change frequently at NewEgg. Either are enough for the video card that Hyper recommended.
As for the video card be aware that the HD 6770 is identical to the HD 5770 except in name. When AMD upgraded their high and very high power video cards to the 6000 series GPU chp, they didn't upgrade the mid level series chip at all and simply renamed the existing cards. Reason I'm pointing this out is you may be able to find HD 5770 cards for less than the HD 6770.
Your limiting factor after upgrading the video is the CPU. 1.6GHz Dual Core E2140 in the big picture a rather modest CPU of the Core 2 family and that's being kind. At least it's better than most Pentium Ds. Also due to the age of the system and the list of compatible CPUs on the above linked motherboard page, you will have a tough time finding an upgrade.
Father Xmas - Level 50 Ice/Ice Tanker - Victory
$725 and $1350 parts lists --- My guide to computer components
Tempus unum hominem manet
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POSSIBLY someplace else. Right now, doing a search for Radeon 5770 yeilds a 6770 as the cheapest result.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
I'm pointing this out is you may be able to find HD 5770 cards for less than the HD 6770.
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Well, they were cheaper when places like NewEgg were flushing out all the old inventory. Now they are the same if you can find them at all. $100 after rebate isn't bad for a card that can do UM at the lower settings.
Father Xmas - Level 50 Ice/Ice Tanker - Victory
$725 and $1350 parts lists --- My guide to computer components
Tempus unum hominem manet
OK I was gonna upgrade but can only do 1 or the other at this particular moment in time. I know RAM will increase my load speed and video card would make for a smoother gameplay with higher graphics turned up.
Here's the thing I only have 1 gig of RAM right now and my load speeds seem too slow to bare sometimes so I was just gonna get more RAM but honestly I'm not really tech savy. What would you tech experts get first and would a better video card have anything to do with load times at all?
Thanks for any help.