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Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
well that bit should be easy I'd think. Time dilation effects as they approach light speed would mean little or no relative time would pass for them.
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Following from Avatea via FFM:
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| Within the vacuum of space Kheldians use their light form to accelerate to light speed and then shift to their Kurukt or Ruktur form. Having sudden immense mass in this form while moving at the speed of light creates a time/space rip (a small wormhole) to form. The result is the Kheldian moving great distances at nearly instantaneous speeds. The only thing slowing them down is a carefully aimed vector toward single or series of massive gravitational bodies. This technique is used to leap frog between star systems with the only notable amount of time expended being the period of acceleration to light speed and subsequent deceleration at the destination point. |
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Originally Posted by LoneWolf23k
Well, I asked because I wanted to give an Alien backstory to some of my old toons after revising them, as well as for some new toons.
I guess this means I can pick out some of my favorite alien races to convert to the setting. And since it's a Big Universe, there might even be a few small Empires out there... |
Quick run through my own "stable" of characters gives:
- A few from an unnamed "Empire," starting with my first scrapper (who was exiled from there.) Blue to Purple skinned, typically white hair, naturally has spines poking out.
- Two extradimensional fire elementals. (Well, one fire, one ash.)
- Quite a few alternate earths or alternate timelines (who are just "alien" to this timeline.)
- Many Kheldians, of course.
... so, yeah. Make up what you want. There's plenty of room.
Actually some of the stuff you can find in the Midnighter's area implies that the Shadow Shard was created by them through a mystical artefact (Maria Jenkins confirms this in a roundabout way when she sends you against Black Swan) and that Rularuu itself is directly linked to the Dream Doctor, the founder of the club, and might even be the Dream Doctor himself. So Rularuu and his various aspects (and to a point their minions) could be said to be, not extradimensionals, but magical constructs from Primal Earth exiled to a pocket dimensional prison.
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Even if it is a magical prison that exists separate from our reality, which is what it seems to be, it's still another dimension with extra-dimensional denizens. I mean, you can get there via Portal Corps.
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Originally Posted by Netphenix5
Actually some of the stuff you can find in the Midnighter's area implies that the Shadow Shard was created by them through a mystical artefact (Maria Jenkins confirms this in a roundabout way when she sends you against Black Swan) and that Rularuu itself is directly linked to the Dream Doctor, the founder of the club, and might even be the Dream Doctor himself. So Rularuu and his various aspects (and to a point their minions) could be said to be, not extradimensionals, but magical constructs from Primal Earth exiled to a pocket dimensional prison.
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Well apparently there is at least one race out there that use Kheldian's as the core of their star drives. Killing the kheldian in the process. So it may well be easier to cross dimensions than space.
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Originally Posted by DLancer
I just find it kinda sad that its apparently easier to tear the dimensional fabric of space and time into an entirely new universe than it is to develop FTL capabilities and explore our own universe.
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Did the Devs ever go anywhere with this teaser? Honestly, it feels like there's a lot of room to work with on the Dream Doctor.
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Originally Posted by Netphenix5
... and that Rularuu itself is directly linked to the Dream Doctor, the founder of the club, and might even be the Dream Doctor himself.
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Originally Posted by Kierthos
Did the Devs ever go anywhere with this teaser? Honestly, it feels like there's a lot of room to work with on the Dream Doctor.
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Also there are the natives of the shadow shard itself, which look human but are from there. the rularuu soldiers, if I recall, are just splinters of rularuu the entity and not individual species.|
Originally Posted by Wicked_Wendy
Now if we want to get really technical while the Rularuu are alien in nature since, I believe, there was only one brief period in game where they invaded earth when they were first introduced (Sorry that was before I began so I am not sure but I seem to recall reading about it). We are the ones now that constantly travel to their world and even have established various bases and outposts (Firebase Zula, etc), Technically WE are the alien race in their universe not the other way around LOL
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| Croatoa's Fir Bolg, Red Caps and Tautha certainly fall into the same sort of other wordly area as the COT demons... not sure about the Cabal they are witches but real or imagined we have myths dating back centuries about witches here. As for the ghosts... well I believe they are former residence of Salamanca so while they may no longer be among the living they are certainly not aliens. Same goes for the ones on the ghost ship.. they didn't appear from out of a dimensional rift or emerge from a space ship.. they rose from their earthly graves to haunt us. |
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The Red Caps themselves are evil faeries. Now, depending on your take Faerie is the name of a place, not just a type of critter. CoH seems to at least have such a realm as many of the missions in Croatoa take you into the spirit realm which has no ghosts so is clearly distinct from the netherworld that negative energy comes from, but is otherwise a mirror of earth. And the red caps are from there. The Cabal are 100% human however.
So we know a minimum of 4 legitimate aliens with models in the game, 1 (merulina) without a model, and 2 more (Battalion and whatever kills off the Khelds in the future as stated by Twilight's Son) mentioned.
To add to your list of monsters that are not aliens:
The hydra tentacles in Faultline seem to be unrelated to the hydramen and just a product of polution.
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Originally Posted by LoneWolf23k
Well, I asked because I wanted to give an Alien backstory to some of my old toons after revising them, as well as for some new toons.
I guess this means I can pick out some of my favorite alien races to convert to the setting. And since it's a Big Universe, there might even be a few small Empires out there... |
I mean, as mentioned look at the salvage. It's called Alien Blood Sample. Not Kheldian Blood Sample. And the description doesn't limit the species to one of the 7 that exist in game lore.
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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade
Also, as Memphis mentioned, they are not 1 species but 3 including their nova and dwarf forms as other aliens they bonded to before coming to earth.
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We *know of* two (technically four) other species because of the Kheldians copying the forms. The Kheldians themselves are one species (or, rather, two, with the serious divergence due to Science of the Nictus/Warshades.)
The forms themselves are not other species of kheldians.
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good point. I wasn't trying to say they are species of khelds, but that the khelds are in-game models of three different alien species. Probably could have said it clearer. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
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We *know of* two (technically four) other species because of the Kheldians copying the forms. The Kheldians themselves are one species (or, rather, two, with the serious divergence due to Science of the Nictus/Warshades.) The forms themselves are not other species of kheldians. </nitpick> |
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As far as I know its just the peacebringers and warshades which are just like the Tokra and Goauld from the stargate tv series respectively. I am not sure about the hydras and such. Those seem more like some weird experiment brought to another world that just went horribly wrong. As for as rikti despite being just like the borg from star trek, they are nothing more than the possible next stage of human evolution just artifically kicked started.
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