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By BrandX,
Posted on: 2011-07-02 11:30 in Blasters

 

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Does Cloaking Device really lose half it's defense bonus when attacking, unlike all the other Stealth powers in the Primary/Secondary?

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Originally Posted by BrandX View Post
Does Cloaking Device really lose half it's defense bonus when attacking, unlike all the other Stealth powers in the Primary/Secondary?
Stalkers lose a lot of AoE defense from Hide when attacking.
But, yes, CD is only 1.75% defense when it matters.

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Yes. Once I figured out how to add in suppression in Mids, my range softcap arch/dev blaster became 43% range defense. Oddly enough it still plays like it's softcapped so I haven't worried about it.

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Giving a full defense bonus might be one way to bring this secondary in line with others.

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Does Cloaking Device really lose half it's defense bonus when attacking, unlike all the other Stealth powers in the Primary/Secondary?
ALL Stealth like powers loose half to suppression. I believe VEATS have the highest number though suppressed which is 5% fully slotted.

This is why A huntsman is popular because they can cap themselves and others to boot.

1. Why Soft Cap is Important : http://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011...important.html
2. Limits: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits
3. Attack Mechanics: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics
4. Rule of Five: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Rule_o...e_Law_of_Fives

 

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Yes it does:

  • DEF(All Types, Melee, Ranged, AOE) +1.75% for 0.75s
    Effect does not stack from same caster
    Suppressed when Attacked, for 10 seconds (Always)
    Suppressed when MissionObjectClick, for 10 seconds (Always)
  • DEF(All Types, Melee, Ranged, AOE) +1.75% for 0.75s
    Effect does not stack from same caster
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ALL Stealth like powers loose half to suppression. I believe VEATS have the highest number though suppressed which is 5% fully slotted.

This is why A huntsman is popular because they can cap themselves and others to boot.
Incorrect, the cloaks from Energy Aura and Dark Armor do not suppress, neither do Shadow Fall or Steamy Mist. Couldn't find the Arachnos cloak in City of Data tho.

Cloak of Darkness (same base numbers as Cloaking Device unsuppressed):
  • DEF(All Types, Melee, Ranged, AOE) +3.75% for 0.75s If NOT on a PvP map
    Effect does not stack from same caster
  • DEF(All Types, Melee, Ranged, AOE) +3.75% for 0.75s If on a PvP map
    Effect does not stack from same caster
Steamy Mist (Defender numbers):
  • DEF(All Types, Melee, Ranged, AOE) +5% for 0.75s [Non-resistable]
    Effect does not stack from same caster
Shadow Cloak (Warshades)
  • DEF(Ranged, AOE, Melee) +3.75% for 0.75s
    Effect does not stack from same caster
Also the cloaks from WSs and Dark armor provides immob resist and +perception. Blaster Cloaking Device should not suppress, and it does not grant these bonuses (or other things like res to certain damages like Steamy Mist / Shadow Fall). Widow's mask presence suppresses but it has higher numbers, works like Hide (with better numbers in defense and a little less stealth when unsuppressed):

  • DEF(Smashing, Lethal, Fire, Cold) +2.5% for 0.75s
    Effect does not stack from same caster
  • DEF(Energy, Negative, Melee, Ranged, AOE) +2.5% for 0.75s If NOT on a PvP map
    Effect does not stack from same caster
  • DEF(Smashing, Melee, Ranged, AOE) +5% for 0.75s If NOT on a PvP map
    Effect does not stack from same caster
    Suppressed when Attacked, for 10 seconds (Always)
    Suppressed when Damaged, for 10 seconds (Always)
    Suppressed when MissionObjectClick, for 10 seconds (Always)
EDIT: found the numbers for Soldiers, they're even better than Widows, suppressed they're like Cloaking Device unsuppressed:
  • DEF(Smashing, Melee, Ranged, AOE) +3.75% for 0.75s If NOT on a PvP map
    Effect does not stack from same caster
  • DEF(Smashing, Melee, Ranged, AOE) +3.75% for 0.75s If NOT on a PvP map
    Effect does not stack from same caster
    Suppressed when Attacked, for 10 seconds (Always)
    Suppressed when Damaged, for 10 seconds (Always)
    Suppressed when MissionObjectClick, for 10 seconds (Always)

 

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Originally Posted by plainguy View Post
ALL Stealth like powers loose half to suppression. I believe VEATS have the highest number though suppressed which is 5% fully slotted.

This is why A huntsman is popular because they can cap themselves and others to boot.
Shadowfall, Steamy Mist, Arctic Fog, Cloak of Darkness, Energy Cloak, and Shadow Cloak, do not lose any of their defense bonus when they attack whie the stealth toggle is toggled.

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