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Returning Inv/SS tank, seeking build advice.

Beef_Cake

By Beef_Cake,
Posted on: 2011-06-27 06:04 in Tankers

 

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Originally Posted by JonasAlbrecht View Post
Since I have Hecatomb, and it gives a better recharge bonus, I'll slot that instead. Now, what I'm thinking I might do is change Knockout Blow to five slots and put Hecatomb in there, and six slot Haymaker with Mako's Bite.
Mako is a ranged defense bonus with only a smaller E/N as a secondary effect; it's not a set I'd use on an Invuln. I don't have time to go over your build right now... I'm about to head to that lovely 4 letter thing called "work". If your defense is squared away consider another Crushing Impact set for the 5% recharge.

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Originally Posted by Call Me Awesome View Post
Mako is a ranged defense bonus with only a smaller E/N as a secondary effect; it's not a set I'd use on an Invuln. I don't have time to go over your build right now... I'm about to head to that lovely 4 letter thing called "work". If your defense is squared away consider another Crushing Impact set for the 5% recharge.
Unfortunately, he's slightly below soft-cap for E/NE if he drops the Mako's set entirely. However, I actually prefer to use the combination of 3 Pulverizing Fisticuffs plus 3 Pounding Slugfests; it gives you slightly more E/NE def and fully slots the attack for damage, which a Mako's set will not do.

And yes, using Hecatomb instead of Crushing Impact is a great idea if you can afford the purples!

Lastly, you might want to use the Armageddon Chance for Fire Damage in Foot Stomp instead of the Dam/Rchg. You've got enough global recharge that FS should still be up pretty fast.

Here's your build with those changes:

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Kitty Heart draft 2: Level 50 Science Tanker
Primary Power Set: Invulnerability
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(3), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(3), RctvArm-ResDam:40(5), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(5)
Level 1: Jab -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(46), Hectmb-Dam%:50(46)
Level 2: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:40(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:40(7), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:40(7), Dct'dW-Heal:40(15), Dct'dW-Rchg:40(15)
Level 4: Haymaker -- P'ngFist-Acc/Dmg:25(A), P'ngFist-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:25(17), P'ngFist-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:25(21), P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg:30(23), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx:25(40), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg:30(43)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Def:50(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(9)
Level 8: Unyielding -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(9), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(11), RctvArm-ResDam:40(11)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(13)
Level 12: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt:40(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg:50(34), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng:50(34), Mocking-Acc/Rchg:50(34), Mocking-Taunt/Rng:50(36), Mocking-Rchg:50(45)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I:40(A)
Level 16: Kick -- Dmg-I:50(A)
Level 18: Invincibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), HO:Membr(19), HO:Membr(19), HO:Membr(21)
Level 20: Knockout Blow -- Hectmb-Dmg:50(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg:50(37), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(37), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg:50(37), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx:50(40)
Level 22: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(23), RctvArm-ResDam:40(36), RctvArm-EndRdx:40(36)
Level 24: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(25), LkGmblr-Def:50(25), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(31)
Level 26: Tough Hide -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(27), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(27)
Level 28: Rage -- Rec'dRet-ToHit:20(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg:20(29), GSFC-ToHit:40(29), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg:50(33), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx:50(45)
Level 30: Resist Physical Damage -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(A), Aegis-ResDam:50(31), Aegis-Psi/Status:50(31)
Level 32: Resist Energies -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:50(33), Aegis-ResDam:50(33)
Level 35: Hurl -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(43), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(43)
Level 38: Foot Stomp -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(39), Erad-Dmg/Rchg:30(39), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx:40(39), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:40(40), Armgdn-Dam%:50(42)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I:40(A)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-EndMod:50(A), P'Shift-End%:50(50)
Level 47: Resist Elements -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:50(48), Aegis-ResDam:50(48)
Level 49: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(50)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Rebirth Core Epiphany
Level 50: Diamagnetic Core Flawless Interface
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth:50(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I:40(A)
Level 2: Health -- RgnTis-Regen+:30(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(13), Numna-Heal:50(46), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(48), Panac-Heal/+End:50(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I:40(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod:50(A), P'Shift-End%:50(17), EndMod-I:50(45)
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Set Bonus Totals:
  • 14.9% Defense(Smashing)
  • 14.9% Defense(Lethal)
  • 15.5% Defense(Fire)
  • 15.5% Defense(Cold)
  • 14.9% Defense(Energy)
  • 14.9% Defense(Negative)
  • 3% Defense(Psionic)
  • 8.94% Defense(Melee)
  • 8.94% Defense(Ranged)
  • 9.25% Defense(AoE)
  • 3.6% Max End
  • 4% Enhancement(Heal)
  • 24% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 60% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 15% FlySpeed
  • 105.4 HP (5.63%) HitPoints
  • 15% JumpHeight
  • 15% JumpSpeed
  • MezResist(Held) 2.75%
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 6.05%
  • MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%
  • MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
  • 6% (0.1 End/sec) Recovery
  • 70% (5.47 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 3.78% Resistance(Fire)
  • 3.78% Resistance(Cold)
  • 3% Resistance(Psionic)
  • 30% RunSpeed

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Knight Court--A CoH Story Complete 2/3/2012

 

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I can't wait to get started on this! Thanks for all your help, everyone!

 

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Originally Posted by Call Me Awesome View Post
Mako is a ranged defense bonus with only a smaller E/N as a secondary effect; it's not a set I'd use on an Invuln. I don't have time to go over your build right now... I'm about to head to that lovely 4 letter thing called "work". If your defense is squared away consider another Crushing Impact set for the 5% recharge.
Mako offers a 1.88% bonues to E/N, not a huge bonuses but nothing to yawn at either. The set also offers a damage bonus and hit point bonus, both of which are awesome for tanks. Depending on existing recharge, I'd much rather have the Mako set than Crushing Impact.

 

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Originally Posted by Hatred666 View Post
This my INV/SS build. I'm softcapped to S/L/E/N/F/C, nearly 300% regen, high recovery/low endurance, and fully slotted fast recharging attacks.

A few things that will stick out is that Dull Pain only has one slot. This is because I have the Incarnate power Rebirth: Regen which i use as my main heal. Conserve Power is only one slotted as well because I picked up the Cardiac Alpha. There are a few pricey pieces here but nothing like PVP IO or purple IO expensive.

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You've given me some interesting ideas for the a next step on my Inv/SS. I just softcapped S/L and picked up a lot of extra defense in other areas and it has really breathed new life into my Tank. Extending from S/L to everything but Toxic & Psionic would be pretty impressive.

 

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Originally Posted by Beef_Cake View Post

And I would recommend soft capped defense to all typed damage, not just S/L
I actually consider defense to E/N/F/C to be MORE important for an Invuln tank. Your S/L resistance will be capped almost by accident, but you don't resist exotic types nearly as well. It really sucks to be running Invuln and run into a bunch of pure energy damage before your defenses are solid.

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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

 

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This is what I switched to, and have been very happy with it.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.942
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Kitty Heart: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Invulnerability
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(3), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(3), RctvArm-ResDam(5), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(5)
Level 1: Jab -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Hectmb-Dam%(46)
Level 2: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal(15), Dct'dW-Rchg(15)
Level 4: Haymaker -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(21), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Mako-Dam%(43)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(9)
Level 8: Unyielding -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(9), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), RctvArm-ResDam(11)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 12: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(34), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(34), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(34), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(36), Mocking-Rchg(45)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 16: Kick -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 18: Invincibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), HO:Enzym(19), HO:Enzym(19), HO:Enzym(21)
Level 20: Knockout Blow -- Hectmb-Dmg(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(37), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(37), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(40)
Level 22: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(23), RctvArm-ResDam(36), RctvArm-EndRdx(36)
Level 24: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(25), LkGmblr-Def(25), LkGmblr-Rchg+(31)
Level 26: Tough Hide -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(27), LkGmblr-Rchg+(27)
Level 28: Rage -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(29), GSFC-ToHit(29), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(33), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(45)
Level 30: Resist Physical Damage -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam(31), Aegis-Psi/Status(31), Empty(42)
Level 32: Resist Energies -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(33), Aegis-ResDam(33)
Level 35: Hurl -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 38: Foot Stomp -- Erad-Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(50)
Level 47: Resist Elements -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(48), Aegis-ResDam(48)
Level 49: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Rebirth Core Epiphany
Level 50: Diamagnetic Core Flawless Interface
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- RgnTis-Regen+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(13), Numna-Heal(46), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(48), Panac-Heal/+End(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(17), EndMod-I(45)

(the empty space is for the +3 def IO, but I've changed my mind about it after someone corrected my mistaken notion about Soft Cap.)



This is what I'd like to change to. I haven't clicked on Conserve Power once, and keep getting told I need more Acc, so I figure switching to Focused Accuracy is a good call.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.942
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Kitty Heart: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Invulnerability
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(3), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(3), RctvArm-ResDam(5), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(5)
Level 1: Jab -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Hectmb-Dam%(46)
Level 2: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal(15), Dct'dW-Rchg(15)
Level 4: Haymaker -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(21), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Mako-Dam%(43)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(9)
Level 8: Unyielding -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(9), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), RctvArm-ResDam(11)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 12: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(34), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(34), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(34), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(36), Mocking-Rchg(45)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 16: Kick -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 18: Invincibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Ksmt-ToHit+(19), HO:Enzym(19), HO:Enzym(21)
Level 20: Knockout Blow -- Hectmb-Dmg(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(37), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(37), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(40)
Level 22: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(23), RctvArm-ResDam(36), RctvArm-EndRdx(36)
Level 24: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(25), LkGmblr-Def(25), LkGmblr-Rchg+(31)
Level 26: Tough Hide -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(27), LkGmblr-Rchg+(27)
Level 28: Rage -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(29), GSFC-ToHit(29), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(33), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(45)
Level 30: Resist Physical Damage -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam(31), Aegis-Psi/Status(31)
Level 32: Resist Energies -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(33), Aegis-ResDam(33)
Level 35: Hurl -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 38: Foot Stomp -- Erad-Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40)
Level 41: Focused Accuracy -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(42)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(50)
Level 47: Resist Elements -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(48), Aegis-ResDam(48)
Level 49: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Rebirth Core Epiphany
Level 50: Diamagnetic Core Flawless Interface
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- RgnTis-Regen+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(13), Numna-Heal(46), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(48), Panac-Heal/+End(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(17), EndMod-I(45)



Again, thoughts and critiques are welcome.

EDIT: minor changes to build.