Most scrapperific Kheld?

Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison

I get a DPS of 96.9.

Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison

Alright Deus, I have numbers for you. I must say, they really disappoint me, but they don't actually surprise me.

My Dwarf form optimal chain, with hasten active, is this (>> indicates a gap):

Mire > Smite > Strike >> Smite >> Mire > Strike > Smite > Strike >> Repeat

The entire chain takes 11.928 seconds, includes less than half a second worth of gaps, and does a total of 1216.7 damage. After accounting for 0.95 accuracy, I get a DPS of 96.9.

That's pretty awful, but it's understandable. Even though this chain includes two purple sets (in Mire and Smite), the base damage here just isn't anything to write home about. If you're going to fight a single target for extended times as a warshade, you're better to do it in some other form.

Full saturation isn't much better. Same chain, with 10 targets to buff my damage yields a total of 1894.9, which works out to 150.9 DPS. Again, considering I have two purple sets in that chain, it's not very impressive.

None of that is rotating the heal, Black Dwarf Drain, in there either. It has the worst DPA of all Dwarf attacks, so if I have trouble staying alive, these numbers fall quickly. Let's face it, Dwarf Form is not the best for dealing damage.

Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus

Using every tool available to survive, what would be the absolute optimal ST DPS you think you would be capable of? It can be any form, or changing between forms.

Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus

Well, while I would never advocate a Dwarf form WS for dealing ST damage over a Scrapper or Brute, 150 DPS is at least passable if you compare it to the quasi-tanker that Dwarf form is.



So here's the next two questions.


Using every tool available to survive, what would be the absolute optimal ST DPS you think you would be capable of? It can be any form, or changing between forms.

Using every tool available, where does the WS fall on the AoE damage output scale?

Assume something like Dark Melee/Invuln is "extremely low" for AoE and something like SS/FA/Soul Brute would "extremely high".

Originally Posted by Microcosm

In a human form build I have, with t4 reactive radial and tons of recharge, against a single target I'm seeing ~200 dps not including damage from the pets. If I include Essence Drain in that for "every tool available to survive," that drops to ~195, again without pets. Should be slightly lower than those, though, as I am not counting activation times for eclipse, hasten, or sunless mire.

I haven't calculated the pet dps contribution in a while, but I would guesstimate that three of them with the soulbound buildup proc would pump out about 150 dps?

Edit: For AoE, you can look at the spreadsheets here, though Joe's numbers are a tad off at the moment.

Originally Posted by Microcosm

The price tag will burn your eyes if you look at it, but that's partially because it is also softcapped to s/l in human form (or will be when they fix shadow cloak to have typed defense as well as positional). My last project cleaned out my bank, stalling this one, which is why I only have hand calcs for you.

Remember, the 200 dps is without the pets. If you are able to keep three of them out (no easy task when facing a lone target), that could jump to over 300.

If you want AoE damage too, you will have to do a compromise build so you can have Nova and its AoE's. Single target dps will take a small hit to fit that in, but it's worth it.

Originally Posted by Microcosm

That's probably 1 dps off of calcs for my dwarf. You can add the pets to that number, so it's not so abysmally low, but they won't last against a pylon, obviously.

A human build I have shows fully double that dps.