Yeah.. old laptop/notebook graphics chipsets, not so good for gaming. I don't have a solution for you.
It's actually a desktop. What strikes me as odd is that this is (believe it or not) an upgrade over the last computer, which did run CoH. This computer currently runs WoW fine.
Right, but as near as I can tell, that chip and that chipset were developed for laptop uses. And City of Heroes has undergone some graphics upgrades which means the old minimum spec requirements are no longer valid. Not just Ultra Mode, but updates that meant older generations of graphics cards aren't able to run it anymore.
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Just a note: Running That Other Game well or not is completely irrelevant, as That Other Game runs on DirectX instead of OpenGL like City does. Additionally, That Other Game is purposefully built to run on even the crappiest of systems (this is part of how it has millions of subscribers - because almost literally no one is left out), unlike City which doesn't really dumb down its graphics for the lowest common denominator.
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Originally Posted by Talonshard
This computer currently runs WoW fine.
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Mids Hero Designer: http://www.cohplanner.com
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I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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There is also a good chance that it isn't actually a better video card. I've seen many times people say that they got a better video card because it was newer and it's actually turned out to be a much lower quality card. Video card terminology is confusing and often misleading.
Run this program CoHHelper and post the results here. That way we will be able to see the exact components of your system and drivers.
But just from your statement. There is a website here that rates video cards. The cards that are currently the best out there have a score of around 3000 to 3800. A card that would be medium quality (meaning you could enable a couple ultra mode features but that's it has a score of around 1100.
The 1150 series has a score of 44.
Don't count your weasels before they pop dink!
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Don't mistake "That Other Game's" faults as "dumbing down" for "the lowest common denominator." It does run on a (now) outdated engine, yes, however it's managed to be fairly successful doing so. It's also worth mentioning that most current games run using DirectX or something of equal value.|
Originally Posted by Aggelakis
Just a note: Running That Other Game well or not is completely irrelevant, as That Other Game runs on DirectX instead of OpenGL like City does. Additionally, That Other Game is purposefully built to run on even the crappiest of systems (this is part of how it has millions of subscribers - because almost literally no one is left out), unlike City which doesn't really dumb down its graphics for the lowest common denominator.
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And, as a side note, using a blatantly condescending attitude (such as in your post) makes you sound a LOT like the ego-driven elitist from "That Other Game." I'm not sure thats a comparison you want to present.
After reading the other, more constructive, replies (thank you for those), and looking at the PassMark site Mandu linked, I can only come to the conclusion that the issue is my card. I'm surprised but not too horribly upset considering the cost of the computer over-all. I guess you get what you pay for.
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Yet that's exactly what it is. Not the "faults" part. I'm not addressing positive or negative qualities of the game. But the graphics are certainly "dumbed down" to allow the game to run on as many systems as possible. It's a business decision - no more, no less.|
Originally Posted by Talonshard
Don't mistake "That Other Game's" faults as "dumbing down" for "the lowest common denominator."
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Originally Posted by Talonshard
And, as a side note, using a blatantly condescending attitude (such as in your post) makes you sound a LOT like the ego-driven elitist from "That Other Game." I'm not sure thats a comparison you want to present.
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Part of that confusion may lie in how Agge referred to That Other Game. Due to some of the changes to the forum rules, many of us are leary of even mentioning the names of other games, as we've been told it is against the Message Forum Rules and Guidelines.
As for people that post with condescending attitudes and ego-driven posts, I'm most likely to fall into that category.
You may be able to use the ATI Mobility Modder tool to allow you to use newer ATI drivers for your video card and get rid of some of the issues you are experiencing. It likely won't get rid of all of them, but the Radeon Xpress series of chipsets were designed for low end laptops and embedded on-board graphics for desktops so they are very underpowered for gaming in general. I've tried running CoH on a system with an on-board X1250 chipset when drivers were still developed for it and before the games graphics updates and it still looked rather horrid. It did however provide a good stress test on the system, which is why I did it in the first place.
As a side note, the Cryptic engine that this game runs on is actually a little older than the engine used by That Other Game. However, as Starcloud points out, we've gotten some graphics updates in the game that doesn't play well with older hardware.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
I'm just returning to CoH after a lengthy hiatus. In my absence I purchased a new computer with a slightly better graphics card.
Now here is the issue:
1. At character creation I don't see any model.
2. At character select I don't see any models.
3. If I log in, I can see the various sections of the UI, however the rest of the screen (the character, the city-scape, ect) are all black.
I'm currently using an ATI Radeon Xpress 1150 Series, which is no longer being updated.