Are these worth anything?
By
Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2011-05-23 15:09 in The Market and Inventions
Well you can check the market but I doubt any of them are worth much. Most of the sets are debuff/mez sets which aren't popular enough to be valuable. Kismet is a Defense set which are generally more valuable but Kismet itself isn't that popular and the particular IO (End/Rech) isn't going to be to popular since most defense powers are toggles.
The Reactive Armor IO is a decent IO in a semi-popular set but level 19 is a bit low, most people opt to slot IOs either in the 30-33 range or at the max for the set. You could potentially slot it in Mind Over Body if you want. As a level 19 it's slightly less effective than an even level SO but unlike SOs it'll remain the same until 50 (it provides about 45.6% of the effectiveness of an SO to two different attributes so overall it's about 91% as effective as a single SO). However, if you were planning to take that route I'd read Fulmen's guide on Frankenslotting and do it properly.
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I understand I can check the market but that doesn't give me what I am looking for. What I am looking for is people's opinions. If there is a way to get those from the market, I don't know how to do that.
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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Well you can check the market but I doubt any of them are worth much. Most of the sets are debuff/mez sets which aren't popular enough to be valuable. Kismet is a Defense set which are generally more valuable but Kismet itself isn't that popular and the particular IO (End/Rech) isn't going to be to popular since most defense powers are toggles.
The Reactive Armor IO is a decent IO in a semi-popular set but level 19 is a bit low, most people opt to slot IOs either in the 30-33 range or at the max for the set. You could potentially slot it in Mind Over Body if you want. As a level 19 it's slightly less effective than an even level SO but unlike SOs it'll remain the same until 50 (it provides about 45.6% of the effectiveness of an SO to two different attributes so overall it's about 91% as effective as a single SO). However, if you were planning to take that route I'd read Fulmen's guide on Frankenslotting and do it properly. |
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Honestly, the market is the best arbiter of whether or not a set is good. If you ask here you get the opinions of a few people. If you read the market you get the collected opinions of the entire player base.|
Originally Posted by JImmyTwoTimes
I understand I can check the market but that doesn't give me what I am looking for. What I am looking for is people's opinions. If there is a way to get those from the market, I don't know how to do that.
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If you see something with a bunch in stock and no one bidding and a last 5 at or near the vendor price, well chances are it's not regarded as a good IO. Something with a similar number of buy and sell orders is probably regarded as a good set. Something with a lot more buy orders than sell orders means the set is in high demand (often due to a low supply).
Now this isn't perfect, some sets are good but aren't in high demand since most characters can't slot them in significant quantities. The best option here is to compare sets to other sets of the same type. i.e. Lockdown is a decent set but is generally cheaper than Positron's Blast because people have less need for Hold sets than Damage sets. However, Lockdown is more expensive than Ghost Widow's Embrace because it has about the same supply but better set bonuses.
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My opinion - dump them all at a vendor.|
Originally Posted by JImmyTwoTimes
Any thoughts about if I should use them for my character, make the I/O to sell or vendor them?
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Why?
1. None of them are notably valuable. Partly because the sets aren't very good and partly because of item 2.
2. Too low level. The buffs they give are kind of shabby. I generally don't slot IO's below level 30.
The only one that MIGHT get you more inf at the consignment house is Reactive Armor, but at level 19 I wouldn't be too hopeful.
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Generally, the way to get that from the market is to check out the price history of the last five trades, the number of bids and offers outstanding, and the amount you can sell it for at the vendor.|
Originally Posted by JImmyTwoTimes
I understand I can check the market but that doesn't give me what I am looking for. What I am looking for is people's opinions. If there is a way to get those from the market, I don't know how to do that.
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However, in this case, I'll save you a bit of time by suggesting you vendor them all.
Ooh, a sarcasm detector. Oh, that's a *real* useful invention. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...t-sarcasm.html
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Thank you.
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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Honestly, the market is the best arbiter of whether or not a set is good. If you ask here you get the opinions of a few people. If you read the market you get the collected opinions of the entire player base.
If you see something with a bunch in stock and no one bidding and a last 5 at or near the vendor price, well chances are it's not regarded as a good IO. Something with a similar number of buy and sell orders is probably regarded as a good set. Something with a lot more buy orders than sell orders means the set is in high demand (often due to a low supply). Now this isn't perfect, some sets are good but aren't in high demand since most characters can't slot them in significant quantities. The best option here is to compare sets to other sets of the same type. i.e. Lockdown is a decent set but is generally cheaper than Positron's Blast because people have less need for Hold sets than Damage sets. However, Lockdown is more expensive than Ghost Widow's Embrace because it has about the same supply but better set bonuses. |
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The market is the place to tell you vendor, make to sell, or sell unmade. That's where you find out what people are willing to pay, how long it's going to sit on the shelf, how many people have it up for sale already, how many people have bids out, and so forth. | Any thoughts about if I should use them for my character, make the I/O to sell or vendor them? |
"Use vs. get rid of", that IS a place where human opinions have some relevance. I wouldn't offhand frankenslot any of those because a level 35 IO is only a little better than a level 25, but from 25 to 15 the curve is a lot steeper.
There are only a few IO's that I find attractive in the sub-25 range, and then only if I'm really really stuck [I had a Dark/Energy tank that I was soloing because I was so subpar I was embarassed to join a team. I put in IO's at 15, 20 and 25.] Usually people under 25 slot nothing but the "obvious" (accuracy and damage for attacks, endurance and resistance/defense, etc.) so most of your IOs that will sell at all will be things like acc/dam or end/res or MAYBE acc/dam/end .
At the risk of giving you a long tedious irrelevant thing to read, check my frankenslotting mini-guide.
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
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My level 22 Brute (DB/WP) has the following recipes:
Orange Recipes:
Cacophony: Confuse/Rech L19
Cloud Senses: To Hit Debuff/End/Rech L18
2X Kismet: End/Rech L21
Yellow Recipes:
Reactive Armor: End/Res L19
Serendipity: Def/End/Rech L16
Stagger: Acc/End L19
Any thoughts about if I should use them for my character, make the I/O to sell or vendor them?
Thanks