Incarnate Shard Question


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If you take a new 50 into the trials and unlock your alpha there are you able to use the threads to craft the alpha requirements? Do they breakdown into shards? How is this handled?


 

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There are 2 sets of recipes for each level of Alpha,

one set that uses Shard components and one set that uses Threads.

You can take you're pick and intercraft up tiers.

So I did;

T1 Threads, T2 Threads, T3 Shards, T4 Shards


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It's worth noting that (as Jamie did) it makes a lot more sense to use shard components for T3 at the very least. A Notice of the Well is much easier to get than a rare thread component. Tier 4 is more of a toss up, it takes a while to farm up the 40 threads you'll need (32 for the favor and 8 for the uncommon) so if you run the trials a lot and get lucky it might be easier to go that route.


 

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So you're saying you can use Threads to craft items for the Alpha slot?

I can't find this information anywhere. Everything I've read has stated that only Shards can be used to create Alpha components (Hero 1 DNA, etc.)

Please let me know if this is incorrect or outdated information. I stepped away from the game for 4 months and when I came back, there was a TON of new systems/currencies/items/etc. I'm very confused.


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So you're saying you can use Threads to craft items for the Alpha slot?

I can't find this information anywhere. Everything I've read has stated that only Shards can be used to create Alpha components (Hero 1 DNA, etc.)

Please let me know if this is incorrect or outdated information. I stepped away from the game for 4 months and when I came back, there was a TON of new systems/currencies/items/etc. I'm very confused.
Fire up the game, click on powers, click on incarnate abilities, click on Create, click on Alpha, click on the alpha flavor (cardiac, musc, etc.) click on any of the abilities in the tree, and scroll down the recipe list on how to craft it, and you will find the bottom one (or ones, in the case of tier 4) will contain non-shard components, but thread-craftable components.


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So you're saying you can use Threads to craft items for the Alpha slot?

I can't find this information anywhere. Everything I've read has stated that only Shards can be used to create Alpha components (Hero 1 DNA, etc.)

Please let me know if this is incorrect or outdated information. I stepped away from the game for 4 months and when I came back, there was a TON of new systems/currencies/items/etc. I'm very confused.
When you're in the game and you have the Incarnate window open to an alpha slot, clicking one of the icons for a buff shows all the possible ways to craft it on the right. There used to be only one for the first three tiers (using shards), but now there are two: one that uses shards and one that uses threads.

The documentation on the CoH websites isn't updated as religiously as the information on paragonwiki.com. Unfortunately, the best place to get this information is in the game itself, and there's not a lot of explanatory material to help you make sense of it.

I'm also disappointed at the profusion of currencies, but there are legitimate reasons for their introduction. I just wish the devs could accomplish the same goals without forcing people to participate in exactly the same content over and over and over.

It wouldn't be so bad if the game didn't crash every other time I ran a trial, or the server lag during the prisoner escape on full leagues wasn't so awful.


 

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Its actually pretty easy to miss, since at the default size the window opens, you only see the top recipe. As someone else said, you have to click on the thing you want to craft to "pin" it in place so you can go to the scroll bar on the right and scroll down to see the multiple recipes, I missed this too.

I'm planning to craft Alphas on a few characters this way, since you can average better then one component per trial if you do them gradually, an Empyrean Merit (worth one common) plus some other component on the reward table plus a few threads and Astral Merits, vs a TF shard component plus MAYBE enough shards to make another.

And I agree, doing a Tier 3 Alpha is likely to be faster with the Notice of the Well then waiting for a Rare Incarnate component, depending on your luck. Especially if you wait for a fairly fast and popular WST for the Notice, like the ITF or even this weeks Positron part 1.

I would suggest *opening* the Alpha slot via the Oro arc rather than trials, unless you are a really pathetic soloer and can't manage to get a Shivan to help it should be faster. And people are usually willing to help with the Trapdoor mission, for example.