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NCsoft / Paragon Studios... commandeering names?

Acyl

By Acyl,
Posted on: 2011-04-21 20:22 in Virtue

 

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It's also a clever name, story-wise. In the comic, when he first appears to save the day, reporters and people ask him who he is. And somewhat bewildered, he automatically replies...that he's just a good samaritan.
...Which for some reason makes me happily squee.

 

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Acyl:
Don't worry about discussing the Marvel law suit here, myself and a lot of other users, we have talk about that a lot of times. You're like one of the few persons that could understand the thing with the name Sakura and other names very close to it.

I agree with you that they took over precaution after the Marvel law suit happened 6 and a half years ago. Until this day, it is the only online game that has been attacked for using names of well known characters. The first excuse: The unique and expanded character creation tool.

Well here we are and when a generic name like Sakura get genericized because they think only in the Naruto, Street Fighter or Card Captor Sakura one (this one is hard since all of her costumes are unique) the best thing to do is appeal against the decision and show them screen shots and saved costumes. They still can use a little common sense.

I'm really glad to see people that understand this. i wish this thing do not happen again to any of you here.

 

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Acyl:
Don't worry about discussing the Marvel law suit here, myself and a lot of other users, we have talk about that a lot of times. You're like one of the few persons that could understand the thing with the name Sakura and other names very close to it.
Heh. Yeah, well...these are the discussion forums for a superhero video game. It's a safe bet that a good proportion of posters here also watch anime, read manga, and know something about Japanese culture. 'cause, y'know, it fills roughly the same pop culture space, and anime is everywhere these days. My grandpa used to joke about, well - hey, there he was dodging Japanese bombs, and here I am painting Japanese toy robots on his coffee table...

But at the same time, we can't assume that everyone knows Japanese stuff, or knows enough about it to make informed and nuanced decisions. It's not like this is universal knowledge. GMs are people. There's rules and stuff, yeah, but it comes down to the GM using their individual judgement. Which can be flawed and inconsistent. NCsoft specifically makes a point of policing anime and manga stuff now, because it's become mainstream, but at the same time it's probably an area a lot of GMs aren't that knowledgeable about.

I find most of the time this stuff gets resolved in your favour...if you can get your case referred to a more senior or more experienced GM. Generally the senior folks are more likely to be understanding. Seems like Hero_Prime up there got a reasonably happy ending to his case (regarding Optimal, at least).

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Heh. Yeah, well...these are the discussion forums for a superhero video game. It's a safe bet that a good proportion of posters here also watch anime, read manga, and know something about Japanese culture. 'cause, y'know, it fills roughly the same pop culture space, and anime is everywhere these days. My grandpa used to joke about, well - hey, there he was dodging Japanese bombs, and here I am painting Japanese toy robots on his coffee table...

But at the same time, we can't assume that everyone knows Japanese stuff, or knows enough about it to make informed and nuanced decisions. It's not like this is universal knowledge. GMs are people. There's rules and stuff, yeah, but it comes down to the GM using their individual judgement. Which can be flawed and inconsistent. NCsoft specifically makes a point of policing anime and manga stuff now, because it's become mainstream, but at the same time it's probably an area a lot of GMs aren't that knowledgeable about.

I find most of the time this stuff gets resolved in your favour...if you can get your case referred to a more senior or more experienced GM. Generally the senior folks are more likely to be understanding. Seems like Hero_Prime up there got a reasonably happy ending to his case (regarding Optimal, at least).
Wow.. In just a few words must say that i like your post. Yes you're very right and that's something we should never forget, not everyone knows about Japanese stuff and even i was mad at the GMS, even they have been unfair with me, Hero Prime and other people, not all are the act that way and i understand that their job is not easy when it comes to this.

I can't complaint to the extreme, i got a name that i wanted before and a good in game friend give it to me, since he felt how i was feeling about my issue. So i already left behind what happen and now i continue here, enjoying the game.

Thank you for posting this, really.. Open minded thinking has been a need always, and now this days is needed more than ever.

 

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It's also a clever name, story-wise. In the comic, when he first appears to save the day, reporters and people ask him who he is. And somewhat bewildered, he automatically replies...that he's just a good samaritan.
It should be mentioned that his first act when appearing to save the day was preventing the destruction of the Challenger space shuttle and the deaths of its crew, an act he had spent his entire life preparing for and was sent back through time to do. By stopping the disaster, he eliminated the timeline he came from. He's also stuck with the question of "Okay, now what do I do?" with his mission accomplished. Astro City is a great series like that. Read it.

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Not sure if it is any way related, but in this thread there is a discussion about AE being unusually strict in it's name restrictions.

 

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Haha, 'her'?

Do you not remember the Ms. Liberty facade? Turned out to be a dude using pictures of a Canadian model to solicit male attention.
So, you're saying he didn't just copy the name, he pretty much stole the entire character concept?

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howabout making it Samaritian.<--period or Samaritian or Sam Aritian?

or 0ptimal with a zero instead of O or OPT IMAL

as Ood Sigma said....We will sing to you, Doctor. The universe will sing you to your sleep. This song is ending. But the story never ends.

 

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howabout making it Samaritian.<--period or Samaritian or Sam Aritian?

or 0ptimal with a zero instead of O or OPT IMAL
Well the using of a 0 is just lame.

Most people prefere not to use a period in the name unless it's for a double of their toon, at least the RPers tend to be more geared that way.

But if you're going to suggest things like that...

S A M A R I T I A N
SAMARlTlAN

...also work (note the lower case L's int he second one)

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