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Do you use Mids Hero Builder? It allows you to plan out a build and even export it to the forums. If you have it and use it, take a crack at a build, post it, and the community can help from there. If not, or you don't want to get it, try listing any/all powers you definitely want to have and someone might throw something together.
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Originally Posted by TimeWellSpent
My 10 year old daughter brought her invuln/ice tank to 50 back in 2009 (without knowing English) and then decided that City of Heroes was childish. Now, two years older, she has started to play again and I think it was the incarnate stuff that brought her back.
However, her build is dated. I am not a tanker person myself (she is a better tank than I am) but I am quite the trader so I now want to spend unlimited funds on making her tank softcapped and overall awesome. Does anyone have a good soft-capped invuln/ice build that I can follow. She loves the Arctic Mastery Epic, but the build does not have to use that. I can probably adapt it. |
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Well, here's an adaptation of my primary Inv/SS/Energy build.
Soft-capped S/L, high E/N and decent F/C.
It's a bit on the expensive side, but not horrendously so.
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Originally Posted by Infini
Do you use Mids Hero Builder? It allows you to plan out a build and even export it to the forums. If you have it and use it, take a crack at a build, post it, and the community can help from there. If not, or you don't want to get it, try listing any/all powers you definitely want to have and someone might throw something together.
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Just make sure she knows that 45% defense will make her tank super-tough and let her go with it.
Comrade Smersh, KGB Special Section 8 50 Inv/Fire, Fire/Rad, BS/WP, SD/SS, AR/EM
Other 50s: Plant/Thorn, Bots/Traps, DB/SR, MA/Regen, Rad/Dark - All on Virtue.
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May I suggest taking a look at my soft cap guide for Invuln? I wrote it to be secondary-neutral; it applies to any secondary you might pair with Invuln.|
Originally Posted by TimeWellSpent
My 10 year old daughter brought her invuln/ice tank to 50 back in 2009 (without knowing English) and then decided that City of Heroes was childish. Now, two years older, she has started to play again and I think it was the incarnate stuff that brought her back.
However, her build is dated. I am not a tanker person myself (she is a better tank than I am) but I am quite the trader so I now want to spend unlimited funds on making her tank softcapped and overall awesome. Does anyone have a good soft-capped invuln/ice build that I can follow. She loves the Arctic Mastery Epic, but the build does not have to use that. I can probably adapt it. |
Soft capping an Inv tanker is actually pretty easy to do without spending huge amounts of money on it. Prices have gone up pretty drastically since issue 13 when I wrote it but you should still be able to get the core IO's in the build for ~100-150 million. Focus on getting S/L defense to 45% first, then work on getting E/N defense to 45%. F/C can be mostly ignored as it's rare and where it does exist it doesn't often come in amounts sufficient to threaten a tanker.
COH has just been murdered by NCSoft. http://www.change.org/petitions/ncso...city-of-heroes
I'd recommend CMA's guide too. Also another thing to bear in mind is with Cold and energy damage, there is smashing involved in them, which is what an invul tanker is good at, smashing damage. Most of the damage you take would be cold, and you've got resistance to that as well.
Took a stab at it, here's what I'd use:
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Unlimited funds it is, because why not if you have the money to spend? Some of the sets offer a minimal increase compared to the increase in cost (Doctored Wounds => Panacea), but it's still an improvement.
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She doesn't read English, sadly
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Originally Posted by Smersh
If your daughter is that keen on tanking, get your Mids' Hero Designer and let her have a crack at it. I bet she'd surprise you with how well she can build one, and it's great for mathematics/problem solving/learning about opportunity costs.
Just make sure she knows that 45% defense will make her tank super-tough and let her go with it. |
Thanks for all the helps and builds! We plan to play next weekend so now I will have to decide exactly how to respec the tank
Will keep you informed
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Maybe you could use this as an opportunity to start her down that road?|
Originally Posted by TimeWellSpent
She doesn't read English, sadly
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If nothing else, a welcome back to the game for her.
Throwing darts at the board to see if something sticks.....
Come show your resolve and fight my brute!
Tanks: Gauntlet, the streak breaker and you!
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Rangle's right....this is fun.
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Here's in Invul/Ice I'm playing right now. She's not quite all done, but pretty close. Close enough to give you a good idea. I built for aggro control and sturdy over damage, though, and while that's my thing, it's far from most people's first choice.
But it should give you a good idea of a starting place at least on that specific combo, and one that's not just an 'in theory, on paper' build...
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.92
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Level 50 Natural Tanker
Primary Power Set: Invulnerability
Secondary Power Set: Ice Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage
- (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
- (3) Resist Damage IO: Level 50
- (3) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection: Level 30
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 33
- (5) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 33
- (5) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 33
- (7) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 33
- (7) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
- (9) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 34
- (9) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
- (11) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 34
- (11) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 34
- (13) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 33
- (13) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 33
- (15) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 33
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
- (15) Miracle - Heal/Recharge: Level 40
- (17) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (17) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (19) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
- (19) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40
- (21) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (21) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40
- (A) Mocking Beratement - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 39
- (23) Mocking Beratement - Recharge: Level 33
- (23) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Range: Level 46
- (25) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range: Level 33
- (25) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge: Level 25
- (27) Mocking Beratement - Taunt: Level 45
- (A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%: Level 22
- (27) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 41
- (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 49
- (29) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 31
- (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%): Level 10
- (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (31) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 26
- (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
- (31) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40
- (33) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 38
- (33) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
- (33) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance: Level 16
- (A) Rectified Reticle - Increased Perception: Level 20
- (34) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff: Level 20
- (34) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 20
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
- (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- (36) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 25
- (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance: Level 40
- (36) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
- (37) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40
- (37) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance: Level 21
- (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance: Level 40
- (37) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40
- (39) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance: Level 33
- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (39) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (39) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (40) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (40) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (40) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 42
- (42) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (42) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (42) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Mocking Beratement - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 43
- (43) Mocking Beratement - Recharge: Level 46
- (43) Call of the Sandman - Chance of Heal Self: Level 24
- (43) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
- (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance: Level 50
- (45) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (46) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge: Level 39
- (A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (46) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 25
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
- (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (A) Jumping IO: Level 50
- (A) Miracle - Heal: Level 40
- (46) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 20
- (48) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 30
- (48) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50
- (A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (50) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (50) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 5% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 5% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 5% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 5% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 10.19% Defense(Melee)
- 17.38% Defense(Smashing)
- 17.38% Defense(Lethal)
- 6.125% Defense(Fire)
- 6.125% Defense(Cold)
- 5.5% Defense(Energy)
- 5.5% Defense(Negative)
- 8.625% Defense(Psionic)
- 4.25% Defense(Ranged)
- 4.563% Defense(AoE)
- 8.1% Max End
- 47.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 23% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 196.78 HP (10.5%) HitPoints
- Knockback (Mag -4)
- Knockup (Mag -4)
- MezResist(Held) 2.75%
- MezResist(Immobilize) 12.1%
- MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
- 20% Perception
- 14% (0.234 End/sec) Recovery
- 70% (5.477 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 20% ResEffect(FlySpeed)
- 20% ResEffect(RechargeTime)
- 20% ResEffect(RunSpeed)
- 1.26% Resistance(Energy)
- 1.26% Resistance(Negative)
- 9% Resistance(Psionic)
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My 10 year old daughter brought her invuln/ice tank to 50 back in 2009 (without knowing English) and then decided that City of Heroes was childish. Now, two years older, she has started to play again and I think it was the incarnate stuff that brought her back.
However, her build is dated. I am not a tanker person myself (she is a better tank than I am) but I am quite the trader so I now want to spend unlimited funds on making her tank softcapped and overall awesome.
Does anyone have a good soft-capped invuln/ice build that I can follow. She loves the Arctic Mastery Epic, but the build does not have to use that. I can probably adapt it.