Any help would be appreciated. Most of the slotting I have seen for DS has been in conjunction with defense builds ie no procs and strictly +defense bonus' from 6 slotted IO sets.
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You don't need to go with the Pet Damage sets that have procs becuase you can put them into Hell on Earth instead.
Blood Mandate works pretty well in Summon Demons and Summon Demonlings, and it gives some nice set bonuses to defence.
Summon Demon Prince is a bit tricky becuase he tends to run out of endurance. So 1x End Red IO and five enhancements from the pet damage set of your choice should do the business.
If the aforementioned set happens to have one of the procs, all well and good - you can have three recharge IOs and three pet procs in Hell on Earth. If it doesn't, then you can go with four procs and two recharges.
Put all the pet bonus in hell on earth. The bonus is based on the caster. The power is always up, not just when the hellfire imps are up.
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Asmodeal Imp: Level 50 Natural Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Demon Summoning
Secondary Power Set: Poison
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Teleportation
Ancillary Pool: Chill Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Summon Demonlings -- Acc-I(A), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), EndRdx-I(3), Dmg-I(5), Dmg-I(5), Acc-I(7)
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Level 12: Summon Demons -- Acc-I(A), BriL'shp-Acc/EndRdx(25), RgnTis-Heal/EndRdx(27), Heal-I(27), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(29), Dmg-I(29)
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Level 18: Hell on Earth -- RechRdx-I(A), SvgnRt-PetResDam(31), EdctM'r-PetDef(31), C'Arms-+Def(Pets)(31), ExRmnt-+Res(Pets)(33), Acc-I(33)
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Level 26: Summon Demon Prince -- BldM'dt-Acc/EndRdx(A), P'ngTtl-Acc/Slow(34), P'ngTtl-Dmg/Slow(36), Dmg-I(36), P'ngTtl-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(36), P'ngTtl-Acc/EndRdx(37)
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Level 49: Corruption -- Dev'n-Hold%(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx(A)
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- Empty(A), Empty(33), Empty(34)
Triumphant Defenders Forever
Psylenz FF/Psi, ArticQuark Storm/Rad, Symon BarSisyphus Bots/psn, Max VanSydow Thugs/Dk, Cyclone Symon Bots/stm, Blue Loki Ice/Cd, Widow 46526
HelinCarnate:OMG it is so terrible. I have the option to take 3 more powers but no additional slots. Boo F'ing hoo.
Thanks a lot guys, big help in understanding the slotting better.
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"when a stalker goes blue side, assassination strike should be renamed "bunny hugs", and a rainbow should fly out" -Harbinger-
Another question for you guys...if placed in Hell on Earth, does the Soulbound Allegiance: Chance for Buildup process everytime a Living Hellfire is summoned?
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"when a stalker goes blue side, assassination strike should be renamed "bunny hugs", and a rainbow should fly out" -Harbinger-
I strongly disagree with Psylenz slotting on summon demons. First off, the heal will really only help with the area heal. The ally heal will always wait until it can heal for full effect, so it will actually delay healing even if it is available until health drops lower. That increases the chance a demonling will die before the heal goes off. It's a big risk for a minimal gain in efficiency.
Secondly, there are 3 IOs with end reduction that all only affect a small portion of your powers. The end red in the heal will only help with the heals and the end red in the pet damage will only help with powers that do damage. Those pets are only getting the effect of 2/3 of 1 IO on any given power at the cost of using 3 different IOs.
You're better off sticking a single common level 50 end reduction IO in there and maybe keeping the pat damage mixed one (since you will use the damage powers more often). That gives you 1 full IO at 40ish % for all powers and around 70% for attacks - compared to his 30-something% for everything.
For an expensive slotting of demons, stick in 2 hamis with resist and end reduction and one common IO resist damage if you want to max that, but switch that to a damaging proc or anything else you want. Then fill up with acc/damage hamis or acc/damage pet damage set singles.
For cheaper. 1 50 common end reduction, 1 common resist damage, 1 acc/dam, 1/acc/dam from a different set, 1 acc/dam/end red, +1 whatever, but I recommend more resist damage to take advantage of those shields.
Also, his prince will run out of end 9 seconds into any fight. You basically have to have a Common IO end red in the prince or he will not function.
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In Mids, I slotted Summon Demons with all HOs...3x ACC/DMG, 1x END/HEAL and 2x END/RES giving them the following stats:|
Originally Posted by rsclark
I strongly disagree with Psylenz slotting on summon demons. First off, the heal will really only help with the area heal. The ally heal will always wait until it can heal for full effect, so it will actually delay healing even if it is available until health drops lower. That increases the chance a demonling will die before the heal goes off. It's a big risk for a minimal gain in efficiency.
Secondly, there are 3 IOs with end reduction that all only affect a small portion of your powers. The end red in the heal will only help with the heals and the end red in the pet damage will only help with powers that do damage. Those pets are only getting the effect of 2/3 of 1 IO on any given power at the cost of using 3 different IOs. You're better off sticking a single common level 50 end reduction IO in there and maybe keeping the pat damage mixed one (since you will use the damage powers more often). That gives you 1 full IO at 40ish % for all powers and around 70% for attacks - compared to his 30-something% for everything. For an expensive slotting of demons, stick in 2 hamis with resist and end reduction and one common IO resist damage if you want to max that, but switch that to a damaging proc or anything else you want. Then fill up with acc/damage hamis or acc/damage pet damage set singles. For cheaper. 1 50 common end reduction, 1 common resist damage, 1 acc/dam, 1/acc/dam from a different set, 1 acc/dam/end red, +1 whatever, but I recommend more resist damage to take advantage of those shields. Also, his prince will run out of end 9 seconds into any fight. You basically have to have a Common IO end red in the prince or he will not function. |
ACC - 94.93%
DAM - 94.93%
END - 94.93%
HEAL - 33.30%
RES - 40%
Should I increase the heal and/or resistance aspects?
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"when a stalker goes blue side, assassination strike should be renamed "bunny hugs", and a rainbow should fly out" -Harbinger-
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Are you sure about that? If so that's a pretty big rip off.
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Originally Posted by rsclark
Secondly, there are 3 IOs with end reduction that all only affect a small portion of your powers. The end red in the heal will only help with the heals and the end red in the pet damage will only help with powers that do damage.
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The suggestion for slotting I made was for pre-purpling level 50 IOs. How do Hammi's help a level 42?|
Originally Posted by rsclark
I strongly disagree with Psylenz slotting on summon demons. First off, the heal will really only help with the area heal. The ally heal will always wait until it can heal for full effect, so it will actually delay healing even if it is available until health drops lower. That increases the chance a demonling will die before the heal goes off. It's a big risk for a minimal gain in efficiency.
Secondly, there are 3 IOs with end reduction that all only affect a small portion of your powers. The end red in the heal will only help with the heals and the end red in the pet damage will only help with powers that do damage. Those pets are only getting the effect of 2/3 of 1 IO on any given power at the cost of using 3 different IOs. You're better off sticking a single common level 50 end reduction IO in there and maybe keeping the pat damage mixed one (since you will use the damage powers more often). That gives you 1 full IO at 40ish % for all powers and around 70% for attacks - compared to his 30-something% for everything. For an expensive slotting of demons, stick in 2 hamis with resist and end reduction and one common IO resist damage if you want to max that, but switch that to a damaging proc or anything else you want. Then fill up with acc/damage hamis or acc/damage pet damage set singles. For cheaper. 1 50 common end reduction, 1 common resist damage, 1 acc/dam, 1/acc/dam from a different set, 1 acc/dam/end red, +1 whatever, but I recommend more resist damage to take advantage of those shields. Also, his prince will run out of end 9 seconds into any fight. You basically have to have a Common IO end red in the prince or he will not function. |
Indeed I split up the endurance reduction for the resistance shield, the heal aura, and damage. I was angling more for the heal aura for the heal enhancer. The ember demon doesn't seem to pay much attention to health levels to spam it.
I can assure my demon prince does NOT run out of endurance in 9 seconds. Most of his actions include a slow component.
Triumphant Defenders Forever
Psylenz FF/Psi, ArticQuark Storm/Rad, Symon BarSisyphus Bots/psn, Max VanSydow Thugs/Dk, Cyclone Symon Bots/stm, Blue Loki Ice/Cd, Widow 46526
HelinCarnate:OMG it is so terrible. I have the option to take 3 more powers but no additional slots. Boo F'ing hoo.
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Absolutely sure. Set IOs only work for powers you could put that enhancement set in.
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Originally Posted by Cheetatron
Are you sure about that? If so that's a pretty big rip off.
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I am working on a Demon/Poison and not aiming for a defensive build at this point. I would like to get the MM players ideas for slotting the following:
1) Summon Demonlings
2) Summon Demons
3) Hell on Earth
4) Summon Demon Prince
Thanks in advance all.
"Forum PvP doesn't give drops. Just so all of you who participated in this thread are aware." -Mod08-
"when a stalker goes blue side, assassination strike should be renamed "bunny hugs", and a rainbow should fly out" -Harbinger-