We can get Celebrant badge now?


CaptA

 

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Found this on the 'wiki tonight under "i18 badges":

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Event Badges
There was one Hero-only Event badge opened up to Villains with Issue 18.

Please note that this badge is only present on Villain characters that have switched sides from being a Hero. It is not possible for characters with a traditional Villain Archetype to possess this badge.

Celebrant Log in during the month of May, 2005
If this IS real, I have to say two things:
  • It doesn't seem fair to award to re-aligned heroes but not villains who have "reformed" .
  • It's not WAI. I currently have two heroes converted to full villain (to run patron arcs) that don't have badge.

IDK, it's a little late for an April Fool's prank. . .


@ Purgatorio

 

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they are only mentioning it because celebrant was the first anniversary badge and was out before villains, so the only way for villains to get it is if you were previously a hero who changed sides and is now technically a villain

so no, there is no possible way to still get this one anymore


 

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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master View Post
. . .so the only way for villains to get it is if you were previously a hero who changed sides and is now technically a villain

so no, there is no possible way to still get this one anymore
If Celebrant ISN'T awarded for switching alignments from hero to villain [which applies to at least two of my current toons], wouldn't the hero ALREADY have it?


@ Purgatorio

 

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Originally Posted by Noobian_Prince View Post
If Celebrant ISN'T awarded for switching alignments from hero to villain [which applies to at least two of my current toons], wouldn't the hero ALREADY have it?
Yes, that's the idea. The Wiki is worded in a confusing way.

Before I18 and side-switching you could make a distinction between "badges only available to Heroes" and "badges only available to Villains". You'd never see a Hero with Villain-exclusive badges, and vice versa. (Sometimes it was because they were specifically marked as one-side-only, and sometimes because the needed mob didn't spawn in zones that a Hero/Villain could access.) Celebrant was *technically* a Hero-only badge, because you'd never see a Villain with it (because, again, they stopped being given out before you could create Villains).

Paragon Wiki tracked every instance of when a previously exclusive badge became possible to get for the other side, such as when the Spring Fling missions allowed Heroes to get Cold-blooded and Weed Whacker.

Now, before side-switching, "previously you would only see this badge on Heroes but now you can also see Villains who have it" could only mean that Villains received some way of earning the badge. But with side-switching, we have the same situation, but for different reasons - Villains still have no way of earning the badge (nobody does), but Heroes who already had it can turn Villain.

Paragon Wiki tried to make a note of this in the same way they did all the previous instances of "you can now see this badge on Villain characters when you couldn't before", and made a mess of it.




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Originally Posted by Noobian_Prince View Post
If Celebrant ISN'T awarded for switching alignments from hero to villain [which applies to at least two of my current toons], wouldn't the hero ALREADY have it?
What that patch note is saying is that some villians may have that badge but only if they were hero AT's and created before the first anniversary.

http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Celebrant

The badge is NOT awarded for switching toon alignments and has nothing to do with alignment except that under no circumstances can a Villian AT (brute, Dom, Stalker, MM or Corr) have that badge.


 

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Originally Posted by Silver Gale View Post
Paragon Wiki tried to make a note of this in the same way they did all the previous instances of "you can now see this badge on Villain characters when you couldn't before", and made a mess of it.
This... unfortunately.


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Event Badges
There was one Hero-only Event badge that became possible for Villains to have with Issue 18, but only if that character started out as a Hero and logged into the game during the window of availability and is now side-switched into a Villain.

Celebrant Log in during the month of May, 2005
After reading the original (unedited) version several times, I eventually figured out that this was what it meant to say.

*muttermutter "Get my hopes up, whydoncha ?" mutter*


@ Purgatorio

 

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How about an arc for Blueside Ouroborus since Celebrant was initally blueside only. 5 missions long where you are time traveling back to the time of the first anniversary and you must stop the 5th column from destroying the celebration. At the end of the arc you can receive the Celebrant badge and hence the 5th column gladiator badge. Other arcs could be created to reward other anniversary badges or just have a menu come up at the end of this arc where you can choose an anniversary badge that your alt is missing.


 

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Originally Posted by Nericus View Post
How about an arc for Blueside Ouroborus since Celebrant was initally blueside only. 5 missions long where you are time traveling back to the time of the first anniversary and you must stop the 5th column from destroying the celebration. At the end of the arc you can receive the Celebrant badge and hence the 5th column gladiator badge. Other arcs could be created to reward other anniversary badges or just have a menu come up at the end of this arc where you can choose an anniversary badge that your alt is missing.
Well it's not like I'd rage-quit the game if they ever did this.

But amazingly enough there are probably some players who'd actually have a problem with this because they have weird ideas about "exclusive" things in MMOs. And even beyond what any player thinks you'd still have to convince the Devs that this would be worth their effort. While they've given us new ways to get many previous event badges they have yet to do that with any anniversary badge. One would have to assume they are generally against the idea. *shrugs*


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Ryver 50 Ele� Blaster [1392 Badges]
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Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
Well it's not like I'd rage-quit the game if they ever did this.

But amazingly enough there are probably some players who'd actually have a problem with this because they have weird ideas about "exclusive" things in MMOs. And even beyond what any player thinks you'd still have to convince the Devs that this would be worth their effort. While they've given us new ways to get many previous event badges they have yet to do that with any anniversary badge. One would have to assume they are generally against the idea. *shrugs*
Yes I expect some would rage-quit over this, or rather this being the straw that broke the back as it were as they had other issues with the game and this would push them over the edge to quitting.

Alternatively as I have stated in past threads about this: the Winter Event login pages could also be called anniversary badges as they were for each year of the event. Yet for the past couple of winter events we could go to Pocket D with candy canes and craft missing winter badges, including the previous login badges.

Thus we have a precedent for crafting/buying missing badges. They COULD add all the anniversary badges to the winter event craft menu, requiring x-mount of candy canes and inf. As the Winter Event is once per year for a limited time, not everyone could craft anniversary badges for all the alts they wanted it on and once the event is closed down everyone has to wait until next year.

Problem solved. The ability to craft the anniversary badges will be there once per year and no one is forced to craft them, purely an option.

Or as an alternative, as part of the upcoming 7th anniversary they could reactivate ALL anniversary badges to be rewarded when alts are logged in during a certain time window. (a week for example) This gives people yet another chance to get missing anniversary badges for their assorted toons.


 

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Originally Posted by Nericus View Post
Yes I expect some would rage-quit over this, or rather this being the straw that broke the back as it were as they had other issues with the game and this would push them over the edge to quitting.

Alternatively as I have stated in past threads about this: the Winter Event login pages could also be called anniversary badges as they were for each year of the event. Yet for the past couple of winter events we could go to Pocket D with candy canes and craft missing winter badges, including the previous login badges.

Thus we have a precedent for crafting/buying missing badges. They COULD add all the anniversary badges to the winter event craft menu, requiring x-mount of candy canes and inf. As the Winter Event is once per year for a limited time, not everyone could craft anniversary badges for all the alts they wanted it on and once the event is closed down everyone has to wait until next year.

Problem solved. The ability to craft the anniversary badges will be there once per year and no one is forced to craft them, purely an option.

Or as an alternative, as part of the upcoming 7th anniversary they could reactivate ALL anniversary badges to be rewarded when alts are logged in during a certain time window. (a week for example) This gives people yet another chance to get missing anniversary badges for their assorted toons.
Well like I said the precedent is definitely there for event badges and even with other badges like Isolator, Jail Bird and Power Liberator. I'm just saying the Devs seem to have made an exception for anniversary badges. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, just a statement of fact.

I've always thought that the anniversary badges were kind of a bad idea to begin with. Applying "real world player" based badges to in-game characters always seemed a bit weird to me. Why would Captain Amazing flying around in Paragon City care about the anniversary of a real world game and why would he get a badge for that.

Again I'll just say I would not be bothered if the Devs provided a new way to get anniversary badges.
The trick seems to be in convincing them to do it.


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Ryver 50 Ele� Blaster [1392 Badges]
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Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
Well like I said the precedent is definitely there for event badges and even with other badges like Isolator, Jail Bird and Power Liberator. I'm just saying the Devs seem to have made an exception for anniversary badges. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, just a statement of fact.

I've always thought that the anniversary badges were kind of a bad idea to begin with. Applying "real world player" based badges to in-game characters always seemed a bit weird to me. Why would Captain Amazing flying around in Paragon City care about the anniversary of a real world game and why would he get a badge for that.

Again I'll just say I would not be bothered if the Devs provided a new way to get anniversary badges.
The trick seems to be in convincing them to do it.
Didn't they once say they were looking to make them account based like the Vet badges?

In any event, it doesn't matter. The quick solution would be to turn them on to be awarded during the big 7th anniversary. People will then have another chance to obtain missing anniversary badges. If they miss the login time frame...well that would be regrettable for them.


 

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I still think there should be a way to do it, but only if you had an active account at the time of the anniversary. Celebrant is missing on my badge toon, and I missed it by about 5 weeks.


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Originally Posted by CaptA View Post
I still think there should be a way to do it, but only if you had an active account at the time of the anniversary. Celebrant is missing on my badge toon, and I missed it by about 5 weeks.
The simple thing is to let them reward during the 7th anniversary. Granted some that may not have had an account at the time will get them, but oh well.