Are low level Set IOs junk?


Adeon Hawkwood

 

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I have 9 level 20-25 Set IOs sitting in Wentworth's on my main marketing character. Most of them have been there for a couple of weeks now, and I just cannot get them to sell--the prices aren't set too high, it's just that nearly no one's buying those set enhancements at the obscure low levels I have them at.

So what do you guys do when you get recipes for IO's like that? Should I just sell the recipe to one of the NPC Stores and not bother crafting it? I only have 5 inventory slots in WW's now because I'm waiting for them to sell... I'd hate to have to take them all down and waste the posting fee, but if no one's ever gonna' buy 'em...


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Except for a few specific items it's pretty hard to sell IOs in that range. Level 28-35 IOs generally sell reasonably well since they are popular with level 50s exemplering down but set IOs in that range provide less benefit than SOs so aren't particuarly popular.


 

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As Adeon and Fulmens say, unless demand is pretty clearly high, you could be sitting on your IOs for some time. In my experience in selling low level (under 25) IOs, you are probably better off selling the recipes rather than the crafted IOs with the corresponding "crafting markup". Most shoppers at those levels are looking for bargain shopping, and it seems to be easier to get bargains on the recipe (where people see a bid on the marketplace and flush it out at 1 inf) than on the IO (where the crafter had to make a conscious decision about whether or not to craft it, then had to craft it and post it a price that he feels provides him with an adequate reward).

My rule of thumb is that I give it a week to sell. Then I either repost at a lower level, at a sell-it-NAO level, or I just delete it and move on.


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I find Supergroup storage tocome in handy for these low level IOs. I drop in them in there to be frankenslotted by alts or others.


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Level 24 dual IOs can be frankenslotted to be just above +3 SO level. I would mostly do it for attacks since you are looking for more aspects to slot, but a number of my new guys are doing this. You can also get 3 set bonuses from two sets if you 6 slot a power. Not bad for doing something on the cheap.


 

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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood View Post
Except for a few specific items it's pretty hard to sell IOs in that range. Level 28-35 IOs generally sell reasonably well since they are popular with level 50s exemplering down but set IOs in that range provide less benefit than SOs so aren't particuarly popular.
My obligatory correction of false information on the comparative enhancement value of IOs and SOs:

+0 SO = 33.3%
Level 17 Triple Set IO = 32.7%
Level 21Dual Set IO = 33.6%
Level 18 Triple Set IO = 34.7%

+3 SO = 38.3%
Level 20 Triple Set IO = 38.4%
Level 24 Dual Set IO = 38.4%

Low level sets provide higher bonuses than SOs.


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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade View Post
My obligatory correction of false information on the comparative enhancement value of IOs and SOs
Fair point, I was referring to the single aspect ones (which cross over at 26).


 

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There had been discussions in the past about frankenslotting with low level Set IOs during your low to mid levels (ie pre-30s) as an inexpensive and effective way get better attribute boosts than straight DOs and Common IOs. Several forumites have given their testimonials on it. I've tried to do it on a few occasions and I just don't see how it can be done.

There are just not enough pieces available to buy when I need it. I've tried placing bids a month ahead along with stunting my character's development and still have not been able to fill my shopping list. After I gave up, I blew through those levels in a couple of weeks of casual play and was then more interested in using my usual mid-30s Set IOs.

I've also tried it on the other side as a seller and have placed assorted crafted, very usable, pre-30s Set IOs on the Market for cheap with no takers for months. The last time I had a spring cleaning of my storage bins and I tried to sell these, I left them up for half a year with a retired character. I eventually deleted these IOs.

Low-level Set IOs are just too much work for too little time benefit. I might use what I get as a drop, but still, the cost to craft these suckers are also a deterrent.


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Originally Posted by SerialBeggar View Post
There had been discussions in the past about frankenslotting with low level Set IOs during your low to mid levels (ie pre-30s) as an inexpensive and effective way get better attribute boosts than straight DOs and Common IOs. Several forumites have given their testimonials on it. I've tried to do it on a few occasions and I just don't see how it can be done.


Low-level Set IOs are just too much work for too little time benefit. I might use what I get as a drop, but still, the cost to craft these suckers are also a deterrent.
I actually get pretty good bang for the buck from lvl 10 to about 20, but then the supply really dries up. If you run some AE missions and roll bronze, you'd be surprised at how many frankenslot-worthy recipes you get.

They won't sell for !@#!@#, but it's a good way to self-frankenslot.


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I agree with Yomo. I have some parked level 15 and 25 characters I run AE with and roll bronze. I get a TON of great recipes. Combined with the random junk I pull just from playing I basically can ignore TOs, DOs, and SOs on all my characters. I occasionally slot an accuracy if it drops and I need one, but I'm more likely to buy or craft a common IO.

I have a base with about 80 level 30 and lower IOs stored and when my characters get over level 35 I tend to respec and put some of the more useful IOs back into storage for the next alt.

The trick is, don't be picky. Don't worry about going for the triples if all that are for sale are duals. If you get too many dam/rech and not enough dam/end, suck it up for a few levels and search again. Keep an eye out for the unusual sets, like Acc/End or Acc/Rech from a def debuff set slotted into an attack if you can't find enough accuracy in a melee or ranged set for sale at the level you want.

Also, use this forum for requests. Quite a few poeple have characters in Mid level crisis who have been great about helping when someone posts looking for a specific set at specific levels.

I have a few low level IOs that haven't sold for over 5 months even when priced at 50k or lower. But again, I don't sweat it, all of my characters have at least 5 unused market slots at all times so , meh. It can sit until someone needs it.

I sell about 10 or more under level 30 IOs per week. Not for a lot of money per sale, but usually at a reasonable markup in %. Mostly I do it for the karma =) and it seems to be working as I never have trouble finding something that will work, even if I don't have exactly what is best.


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Mostly I do it for the karma =) and it seems to be working as I never have trouble finding something that will work, even if I don't have exactly what is best.
Yeah, I do pretty well selling low level Karma -KB as well.

Wait, that wasn't what you meant?


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IIRC, two level 28 IO doubles = two level 50 common IOs. So, sucks depending on what you're really looking for.

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In a way they are junk. BUT, if you are leveling new toons, put them into the SG storage and use them as your toons level.

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The trick is, don't be picky. Don't worry about going for the triples if all that are for sale are duals. If you get too many dam/rech and not enough dam/end, suck it up for a few levels and search again. Keep an eye out for the unusual sets, like Acc/End or Acc/Rech from a def debuff set slotted into an attack if you can't find enough accuracy in a melee or ranged set for sale at the level you want.
(snips)
I agree with this. Picking up end red/recharges/accuracy from sets like slows, debuffs and such make it a lot cheaper than only buying the typed attacks ones.


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