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Jes it's -20% Res.|
Originally Posted by Clouded
Hi all.
Apparently I've missed a lot during my hiatus from CoH, and I only recently learned about this new mechanic called bruising (new to me  ). Which is a resistance debuff given to the Tier 1 attacks in the Tanker's secondary. Now, correct me if I am wrong. The debuff is -20%, jes? It lasts for 10s, jes? Not stackable, jes? Did I miss anything? Lastly, does anyone have any DPS or other calculations that show the benefit of this resistance debuff? If it matters I am currently playing a /DM tanker. Thanks! |
Jes it lasts for 10 seconds.
If you already had your tier 1 attack as part of your attack chain, then this should be a straight 20% increase in your DPS (well, a little less since your fist attack won't do the 20% extra damage, but close enough). If it wasn't, then it's going to depend.
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If you haven't already read, Bruising also works by giving the enemy a temp power, which they use and debuff themselves. Since they're the caster, not you, the 20% debuff isn't effected by the Purple Patch. (It's still resisted by resistance, though.)
Also, while Bruising won't stack with itself, using a t1 power before it expires will refresh the duration.
The easiest way to factor in Bruising (and res debuffs in general) it to take your dps and multiply it by the 1.2 (or 1 + res debuff). This works even on targets with resistance.
For example, if your target has 50% smashing res, a 100 dmg attack would deal 50 dmg. If you apply a 20% res debuff, their res will be dropped to 40% (50% - (20% * 50%)). If you use the same 100 dmg attack, it will now deal 60 dmg, or 20% more (50 * 1.2 = 60).
Thanks you two. And I feel kinda silly for asking for calculations since it was preeeeeeeeety straight forward. Dur.
By Friday my brain does not seem to work properly until I derag and run chkdsk over the weekend.
Thanks for the info!
EDIT: gud spelr
Just a thought, if there is another tanker on the team and he/she also fires off their tier 1 in addition to yours, does that mean that enemy has just lost 40% of their damage resistence?
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Nope. It is a temp power with a limit of 1 total, not one per character. (I don't think they even have the tech to do that, atm.)
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Originally Posted by BigBoss Eyepatch
Just a thought, if there is another tanker on the team and he/she also fires off their tier 1 in addition to yours, does that mean that enemy has just lost 40% of their damage resistence?
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Say what?|
Originally Posted by Sarrate
Since they're the caster, not you, the 20% debuff isn't effected by the Purple Patch.
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Originally Posted by Sarrate
Since they're the caster, not you, the 20% debuff isn't effected by the Purple Patch.
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The self-cast means it's scaling by the enemy not you vs. the enemy, so even a lowbie tank punching a high AV can be doing some helpful debuffing. This is pretty potent when you think about it, part of why they make it completely unstackable.|
Originally Posted by Sailboat
Say what?
Yow. That sounds nice. Is that mechanic used by (some/any) other debuffs too, or is it unique (so far) to Bruising? |
It's very similar to the way the achilles heal -res proc works.
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Bruising cannot stack with Bruising, either your own or another tankers. It CAN, however, stack with any other -Res debuff like the Achilles Heel Proc.
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Originally Posted by BigBoss Eyepatch
Just a thought, if there is another tanker on the team and he/she also fires off their tier 1 in addition to yours, does that mean that enemy has just lost 40% of their damage resistence?
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It stacks mighty fine with Reactive Interface's -Res debuffs too, and since it looks like, at least from what I've seen on the i20 Beta, most other ATs will be going Diamagnetic, a Tanker wielding Reactive and Bruising can become quite the force multiplier in a team situation against tougher foes.|
Originally Posted by DoctorWhat
Bruising cannot stack with Bruising, either your own or another tankers. It CAN, however, stack with any other -Res debuff like the Achilles Heel Proc.
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Hell, Bruising alone makes a tank a force multiplier.|
Originally Posted by Johnny_Butane
It stacks mighty fine with Reactive Interface's -Res debuffs too, and since it looks like, at least from what I've seen on the i20 Beta, most other ATs will be going Diamagnetic, a Tanker wielding Reactive and Bruising can become quite the force multiplier in a team situation against tougher foes.
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As does Rad Emmition. And Sonic. Trick Arrow...
Few other things...
Hi all.
). Which is a resistance debuff given to the Tier 1 attacks in the Tanker's secondary.
Apparently I've missed a lot during my hiatus from CoH, and I only recently learned about this new mechanic called bruising (new to me
Now, correct me if I am wrong. The debuff is -20%, jes? It lasts for 10s, jes? Not stackable, jes? Did I miss anything?
Lastly, does anyone have any DPS or other calculations that show the benefit of this resistance debuff? If it matters I am currently playing a /DM tanker.
Thanks!