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Which Ice Melee attack is the most skippable

Aett_Thorn

By Aett_Thorn,
Posted on: 2011-03-21 24:36 in Tankers

 

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Originally Posted by Tundara View Post
And I personally find Frost the most skippable. Stupid long cast time and short range. Damage is otherwise fine though. >.>

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In contrast, I find Frost the least skippable, since it's a pretty healthy portion of your AoE damage throughput. It's also possible to slot Range into the power, increasing its reach out to 14-15 ft ... which also happens to be approximately your native jump height with inherent hurdle. Doing "hop-shots" where you jump straight up, so as to point the cone DOWN onto your target turns Frost into a PBAoE-ish power that stands a much better chance of hitting the target cap and thus getting that much more efficient at turning time and endurance into damage throughput.

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Originally Posted by Ice_Ember View Post
It is the same damage as Foot Stomp...
Not exactly It 3pts more then footstomp. (base damage) Close enough


My First 50 here was a FA/IM tanker. The biggest call was the Ice Patch + Burn combo.


I have to say SD/Ice sounds like a nice combo. I would suggest going ether Mu or Soul as a Epic for a nice ST attack with some kick (Gloom or Mu lightning).

SD/Ice/Soul would be a very solid biuld.

Main: Praetor Imperium Elec/SS/Mu

 

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Originally Posted by Tundara View Post
Yup yup!

And I personally find Frost the most skippable. Stupid long cast time and short range. Damage is otherwise fine though. >.>

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Gasp!! Tundara's back! Yaaaaaaayyyyy!

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Tundara's back! But dissing Frost! I'm suddenly very sad.

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Originally Posted by Tundara View Post
Yup yup!

And I personally find Frost the most skippable. Stupid long cast time and short range. Damage is otherwise fine though. >.>

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Frost has a higher DPA (and double the DPE) than FA (and FF too, while we're at it). If you're hitting the same amount of mobs, Frost is a superior power to FA (of course you're gonna hit more mobs w/FA, but still...). If you hit 2 mobs, it's a better attack than IS & GIS. If you hit 3 mobs, it's a better attack than FT. 15' range (w/decent frankenslotting for +range) is nothing to sneeze at, and if you can't hit 3 or more mobs w/Frost, you're just not trying.

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DPE? DPA? What, is this the dark days of fixing Ice Melee all over again when we had to use math? I hate math! I go by my gut and my instincts, and they say Frost is the most skippable! And my gut is probably wrong. But hey, can't not play for a year and a half and expect to still be good at something.

I like the idea of jump-attacking using Frost. =^-^=b

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Originally Posted by Tundara View Post
I like the idea of jump-attacking using Frost. =^-^=b
I usually refer to the tactic as "Hop 'n' Pop" ...

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Originally Posted by Tundara View Post
DPE? DPA? What, is this the dark days of fixing Ice Melee all over again when we had to use math? I hate math! I go by my gut and my instincts, and they say Frost is the most skippable! And my gut is probably wrong. But hey, can't not play for a year and a half and expect to still be good at something.

I like the idea of jump-attacking using Frost. =^-^=b

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Wow, long time, glad to see you are back. Frost is a cup of tea power IMO. Some hate it, some love it. Personally, way back before Frozen Aura was changed and made awesome, I used to use it often as my only power I could do multi target damage (short of single target bugs and mob stacking... I miss the old days) As for math, I have all but stopped posting elaborate spreadsheets and going thru mathematical computations to prove points. Its easier just to not say anything

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Originally Posted by Redlynne View Post
I usually refer to the tactic as "Hop 'n' Pop" ...
heh, haven't heard that in a while. I like to call it leap frogging but whatever works.

In my own opinion and I have said it for years, Greater Ice Sword is the most skippable.

 

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Greater Ice Sword is the most skippable.
S'truth.

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