Elusivity used to be 30. Widows stacked it, so people came to the conclusion that Elusivity was overpowered when it fact it was not. As played on my SR Scrapper, 30 Elusivity made SR decent but nowhere near overpowered. I was still very killable and killed on a pretty regular basis. But Widows broke it, IMO, so it was nerfed to 10. 10 Elusivity might as well be 0. It's worthless.
I say bring back 30 Elusivity, but don't give it to Widows. Leave them at 10.
At any rate, Elude makes SR playable. It does grant a certain amount of survivability you won't otherwise have. With Diminishing Returns, the base Defense of SR outside of Elude is a joke.
For now, if you want to PvP with any degree of seriousness, avoid SR. Roll something else. Invulnerability is good. Shield too, as it doesn't lean as heavily on its Defense as SR does.
Also, Diminishing Returns itself might be doing something to keep Elusivity from working properly. As Arcanaville designed it, it was aimed at a PvP environment that didn't have DR, so introducing it alongside DR might have made extra complications for it.
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I think that right there is a joke. I know first hand that an SR can beat a widow in a 1v1 duel, maybe not a fort, but definitely a widow. Unless you throw mass amounts of purple/pvp IO's in it, but if you do that to just about anything it becomes extremely difficult to beat.|
Originally Posted by Daemodand
Elusivity used to be 30. Widows stacked it, so people came to the conclusion that Elusivity was overpowered when it fact it was not. As played on my SR Scrapper, 30 Elusivity made SR decent but nowhere near overpowered. I was still very killable and killed on a pretty regular basis. But Widows broke it, IMO, so it was nerfed to 10. 10 Elusivity might as well be 0. It's worthless.
I say bring back 30 Elusivity, but don't give it to Widows. Leave them at 10. At any rate, Elude makes SR playable. It does grant a certain amount of survivability you won't otherwise have. With Diminishing Returns, the base Defense of SR outside of Elude is a joke. |
The problem is T9's are so loaded the rest often lacks. If elude took a slight nerf and the toggles for widows/sr's were given a boost it would result in a more balanced set.
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Originally Posted by Toe_Tagger
I think that right there is a joke. I know first hand that an SR can beat a widow in a 1v1 duel, maybe not a fort, but definitely a widow. Unless you throw mass amounts of purple/pvp IO's in it, but if you do that to just about anything it becomes extremely difficult to beat.
The problem is T9's are so loaded the rest often lacks. If elude took a slight nerf and the toggles for widows/sr's were given a boost it would result in a more balanced set. |
I'm sorry but did you actually read the guys post. He never said anything about /sr or widows fighting. What he said was because of the fact that widows apparently stack the 30 elusitivity bonus it got nerfed to 10. How does that equate into /SR can beat widows?
Since i13, Elude became a joke in pvp, especially against high to-hit ATs such as /em blasters. So...have any of the new developments with incarnates or this "elusticity" I hear about improved it's performance?