Because the devs haven't gotten around to it. The original concept was that when ATs had the same powerset ype they would still have a number of different powersets. Eventually the devs changed their mind and started proliferating the powersets between ATs. Fire is almost certainly on the list but it's the last one since it doesn't really play to a Defender's strengths (not secondary debuff effects).
It will very likely be the next set to be ported over. Thermal/fire should have been done before Traps, but DP was made so Thermal/fire got bumped, in theory at least. I would like to see it done so there can be an all Fire "5-alarm" SG made.
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And yet defenders have had Archery since issue 5.
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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Fire is almost certainly on the list but it's the last one since it doesn't really play to a Defender's strengths (not secondary debuff effects).
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Probably mostly because of concept for Trick Arrow Defenders.
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Originally Posted by Amy_Amp
And yet defenders have had Archery since issue 5.
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I wouldn't hold my breath -- Posi stated at the Bay Area Meet & Greet this past year that all of the powerset proliferation is done. That's not to say their plans couldn't change in the future, but at least as of that night when he made the comment, he seemed (to me, at least) to be very definite about that.
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Originally Posted by Amy_Amp
It will very likely be the next set to be ported over.
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Wow, he said that... disappointing...
You've got to admit, sets like Super Strength would be pretty ridiculous on Scrappers. Rage would give +100% damage on a Scrapper, and it can theoretically be triple-stacked, so 300% of 1.125=OMGbroken. Of course, you could port a version of it over. A highly nerfed one that, in Scrapper hands, would still be very respectable.
But yeah, if Posi said no way no how to more proliferation, well, remember War Witch is actually the one making those calls now and I get the proliferation-friendly vibe from her, so all is no lost.
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The statement was said, not as his opinion, but as Paragon Studios' position on the matter. Again, that doesn't mean it can't change, but WW was in the room at the time and did not say anything to refute his statement.
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Originally Posted by Daemodand
But yeah, if Posi said no way no how to more proliferation, well, remember War Witch is actually the one making those calls now and I get the proliferation-friendly vibe from her, so all is no lost.
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Originally Posted by Eric Nelson
The statement was said, not as his opinion, but as Paragon Studios' position on the matter. Again, that doesn't mean it can't change, but WW was in the room at the time and did not say anything to refute his statement.
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And the statement was made when Positron was the one setting policy, wasn't it? And he is no longer the one setting policy? And War Witch would be very unprofessional if she publicly disagreed with her boss on policies he set? Come on, I'm trying to be optimistic here.
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Which has knockback. In any case my point was that no secondary effects made it low on the list for proliferation, not that it ruled it out entirely. Additionally, Archery was not proliferated, it was added to defenders when it was released.
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Originally Posted by Amy_Amp
And yet defenders have had Archery since issue 5.
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Um...no, we're talking about only a few months ago, and WW has been in charge longer than that. Sorry, nothing wrong with being hopeful (which is why I stated twice that their position could certainly change), but that's the way they stated things at that time.
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No more? But Dominators don't have the most EVIL control set yet?!?! I don't care if it doesn't build Dom... Dom's have a secondary set to do that. Leaving Dom's hangin' withought Illusion. I will probably never level one now. Can't make one Ebil enough. (sadface)
Woudln't have minded Blaster's getting dark and Def's getting Fireblast. Brutes and scrap's getting the beta brute version of Ice Melee.... Gad!! There's still tons of fun we could have. Why?!?! Why stop?!? It makes no sense....
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Partly seems odd because they could port more sets. Partly makes sense because I think they have zero desire of porting "everything" like Posi said they were going to do. They can make new sets that give enough of the same aspects to another set that it becomes a pseudo port, ie tanks get WP, but not Regen(which I can't see working) I have noticed ports haven't happened at the rate they were so I was curious if/when they were going to do more. I guess they just assume since people can play on guy on blue, or red side that they can just drop the porting idea. So I guess I'm not surprised, but one more round of ports would have been nice.
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I wouldn't hold my breath -- Posi stated at the Bay Area Meet & Greet this past year that all of the powerset proliferation is done. That's not to say their plans couldn't change in the future, but at least as of that night when he made the comment, he seemed (to me, at least) to be very definite about that.
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I wouldn't hold my breath -- Posi stated at the Bay Area Meet & Greet this past year that all of the powerset proliferation is done.
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I've been waiting since i2 for Scrappers to get Energy Melee. I want Glowie Fists and Regen.
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No more? But Dominators don't have the most EVIL control set yet?!?! I don't care if it doesn't build Dom... Dom's have a secondary set to do that. Leaving Dom's hangin' withought Illusion. I will probably never level one now. Can't make one Ebil enough. (sadface)
Woudln't have minded Blaster's getting dark and Def's getting Fireblast. Brutes and scrap's getting the beta brute version of Ice Melee.... Gad!! There's still tons of fun we could have. Why?!?! Why stop?!? It makes no sense.... |
A Dark/dark blaster is pretty much the number one build I can't roll right now.
Maybe they're done proliferating because Castle's no longer here to make it work right?
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Maybe they're done proliferating because Castle's no longer here to make it work right?
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So I was playing around on CoH earlier, decided to make my first Defender and I started wondering, why don't Defenders have Fire as a secondary? :/