Important Question about Fire Blast


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So for a very long time when I first started playing this game, flares was bashed as one of the first attacks in the game. At some point it received a snazzy new animation, and after testing I determined that flares kicked the crap out of fire blast as the level 1 attack to take. Never looking back, I played my way through team after team, dominating, and instruction other fire Blasters to drop their fire blast in favor of flares.

Here's where it gets odd. I was teaming with someone who insisted on pain of death that fire blast had a higher DPA than flares. I started to wonder if I could have been wrong. Please note that at no point in the ensuing argument will I be using Arcanatime.

When I look at my powers on my Blaster, I see:

-Flares-
10.35 Dmg
1.00 Sec Animation
10.35 DPA

-Fire Blast-
13.88 Dmg
1.67 Sec Animation
8.31 DPA

There's an obvious winner there, especially when flares instant recharge makes it the perfect filler attack between other attacks for a smooth attack chain and sexy defiance boosts. Yet this other player persisted that fire blast was better and somehow had a 1.2 Sec Animation. I just didn't get it... but I think now I do.

...he was a Corruptor...

It would seem that according to him, all in-game sources, and MIDS, Corruptors (and Dominators) get a faster version of fire blast for no reason. This extends to every version of the power available in Epic Power Pools. It does indeed have a 1.2 Sec Animation, making it by and large the superior choice to flares especially with defiance taken out of the equation for them. So Blasters, the primary ranged damage class in the game, are the only ones with a nerfed version of this ranged attack power...?

Can I call BS on this? If my Blaster's fire blast was the same as everyone else's I would probably take it too. Is any of this in-game information wrong, or are Blasters getting the short end of the stick.


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Weeell, if Defiance weren't what it is, i'd almost be bummed about this.

But, give the Corruptor his cigar, buy yourself a beer and move on. I'm sure it'll get noticed, fixed and thusly you'll receive your vindication. But until then accept the numbers and enjoy the game.


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To be fair, they're also the only ones that can fire it while mezzed too...


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The 1.2s animation was actually the original. Way back when, flares had that godawful 2-3 second animation and fire blast had a 1.2s animation. I don't remember when flares was changed (before this, I think), but fire blast was changed as part of defiance 2.0. They normalized the cast times of all blaster tier 1 and 2 blasts, presumably so that all blasters would get the same benefit from the 'fire through mez' part. I believe it was a buff for a couple sets, but for fire's fire blast and ice's ice blast, their cast times went up. On the other hand, corruptors never got that normalization, so they still have 1.2s cast time fire blasts and 1s cast time ice blasts. It's not a case of corruptors getting a special buff, it's just that they never got a change that blasters did.

And given that blasters are still the only ones who can fire it through mez, and that flares and fire blast are still the highest DPA tier 1 and 2 attacks for blasters, I'd consider it a small tradeoff.

(And you really do have to use arcanatime. I know it's more complicated, but if you're talking DPA you're just not getting accurate numbers without it. For example, with arcanatime flares has a 1.188s cast and fire blast has a 1.848s cast - averaging in fire blast's DoT, that gives them unenhanced level 50 DPAs of 53.19 and 50.1 respectively, according to mids.)


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I miss the old animation time on my Fire blasters.

Scrappers get the 1.2 second version too!

One thing you have not considered is that Fire Blast gets some extra DoT. Even on Blasters, Fire Blast can have better DPA than Flares, although Flares does barely nudge it out on average. The difference between the two attacks is small enough that I recommend you take whichever you prefer (I take Flares normally, I like its fast recharge).


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