customizing henchmen


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I know I have brought this up before, but I really think the devs should consider a customizing option to decide how their summoned henchmen look & dress. For example, why can't a mastermind summon female mercs, soldiers, or thugs? Ppl have suggested that maybe they might be concerned that it might look like someone's a "pimp", or something sexual. That is RIDICULOUS! If that is the case, then why don't they censor how the female characters dress? I really would be interested in female henchman for the mm's.


 

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It was apparently 'in the works'. It was more a case of making things look good, rather than ending up with what happened in reality, which was blue 'smurf' zombies. Which looke daft, apparently.

So, yes, hopefully it's somewhere in the pipe. But I wouldn't bet on it being soon yet.


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As I understand it, not wanting "pimp" characters is nothing more than a rumor, and the real reason is purely technical.

There's a bunch of topics about it, but I think this one explains it the best: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=236651 (start with the 10th post, past all the "no pimps!" rumor-mongering)


 

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As I understand it, not wanting "pimp" characters is nothing more than a rumor, and the real reason is purely technical.

There's a bunch of topics about it, but I think this one explains it the best: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=236651 (start with the 10th post, past all the "no pimps!" rumor-mongering)
And in case anyone doesn't want to look at that thread.

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Pimp theming does not seem to be the limitation; all of the devs' answers have come down to this: The engine finds NPC customization to be problematic.

Why? It seems pets, along with granite stone armor and the forms for kheldians are very simplistic. They just use an NPC model in a library, and the system doesn't seem to be set up now to handle customization of the NPC library.

The thugs for masterminds, for instance, use differing models. Yet there's no way to make sure your arsonist always looks the same. It just doesn't specify.


 

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Well, they should at least allow us to specify whether we want male or female!


 

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But before that fix the Pet AI's, for godsake.


 

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But before that fix the Pet AI's, for godsake.
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It was apparently 'in the works'. It was more a case of making things look good, rather than ending up with what happened in reality, which was blue 'smurf' zombies. Which looke daft, apparently.
This is a ridiculous excuse and I demand, DEMAND a Smurf Summoning primary for Masterminds!!


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Well, they should at least allow us to specify whether we want male or female!
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But before that fix the Pet AI's, for godsake.
What makes you think that the Art Department knows anything about coding pet AIs, or that the Powers Department would put any task, AI-related or otherwise, on hold to customize pets?

In other words: The two have nothing to do with each other. They can be worked on in any order, concurrently, or one completely independently of the other with the other ignored. Demanding that one be fixed before the other is like going to Walmart store and demanding that the person in the garden department fix your car's engine before selling a rake to the guy that was there before you.


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Ppl have suggested that maybe they might be concerned that it might look like someone's a "pimp", or something sexual. That is RIDICULOUS! If that is the case, then why don't they censor how the female characters dress? I really would be interested in female henchman for the mm's.
This concern stems more from the fact that there are a number of emotes that can appear sexual, and that you can make them say anything you want. You can also, through costume color/skin color choices, make a character appear to be naked.

The time between allowing pet customization and someone breaking the Teen rating of the game would be extremely short.

The real problem is that it does indeed involve specific character models that the game looks up when you summon them, very similar to how Granite and Kheldian shapeshifting works (you can't customize them either)

So, the second part is the problem they have, and the first part is why they aren't looking into solving that problem.


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This concern stems more from the fact that there are a number of emotes that can appear sexual, and that you can make them say anything you want. You can also, through costume color/skin color choices, make a character appear to be naked.

The time between allowing pet customization and someone breaking the Teen rating of the game would be extremely short.

The real problem is that it does indeed involve specific character models that the game looks up when you summon them, very similar to how Granite and Kheldian shapeshifting works (you can't customize them either)

So, the second part is the problem they have, and the first part is why they aren't looking into solving that problem.
Well, like I said, we should at least have the choice in choosing the gender of our pets & just have the henchgirls dressed modestly. That's all!


 

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This concern stems more from the fact that there are a number of emotes that can appear sexual, and that you can make them say anything you want. You can also, through costume color/skin color choices, make a character appear to be naked.

The time between allowing pet customization and someone breaking the Teen rating of the game would be extremely short.
The thing is, anything like that could be done in-game by multiple players already.


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The thing is, anything like that could be done in-game by multiple players already.
And, indeed, has been just with existing materials.


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How about more MM options.

Witches
Clown (yeah, yeah, fear of....I know)
Space Aliens (the grey type)
Cowboys
Apes
Pirates

MMs could be the most diverse powerset in the game.


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Aliens and flying monkeys


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So, the second part is the problem they have, and the first part is why they aren't looking into solving that problem.
Except, by all accounts, they were looking into it.


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