I despise the "old school" tactic of snipping the Nictus, I'm sorry that you folks failed, I'm even more sorry to hear that a fellow Libertian acted the way they did and quit on the TF before it was finished. I don't like to see that sort of behavior on the server I play on. I hope that this incident doesn't leave a sour note with any of the parties involved.
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The sniping nictus strategy has been, in my experience, used only as a last resort, when the overpowering Romi has shown not to work.
Sorry things didn't go as expected.
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@Ukase
I really have no issues with the game-play of the team in general. We had a capable tank, and adequate DPS to drop Rom (were a debuffer present). I was just taken by surprise by both the (apparently default) nictus pulling tactic, and the end-of-unusually long TF (two others had already quit due to time/sleep factors), passive-aggressive team-bail by the only buff-debuff teammate.
My chat was un-typically tactless however and was apparently sufficiently provoking to merit creation of an intolerable team atmosphere. I do owe the team an apology for my part (though the quitting player asserted that I "wasn't part of the problem". I "was the problem". Classic passive-aggressive... whatever. Serenity now, serenity now.) in the fiasco, which I should have done better last night in team chat. This was an un-precedented event for me in >6 years in the game (being blamed for a team implosion), so I apologize for the outcome, especially to the SHF channel members who had to deal with it. But hey, got 8 shards.
Well I hope you learned your lesson....
What was the lesson again?
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I believe the lesson is "Late night TFs are a crap shoot. Let the joiner beware."
You know, I still don't think you owe anyone an apology; but, if you feel your actions/speech were less than your typical self, it's a commendable thing to apologize.
I accept!
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@Ukase
You know who needs to apologize? That ukase fella for all those terrible puns!
j/k
I agree with ukase, doesn't sound like you really need to apologize. Seems more like people were getting sleepy.
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You know who needs to apologize? That ukase fella for all those terrible puns!
j/k I agree with ukase, doesn't sound like you really need to apologize. Seems more like people were getting sleepy. |
The one who needs to apolagize is me, since I was the one who quit. Frustration from a lot of deaths, and having a tactic changed in midswing, plus hunger are not an excuse. I could say I tried to be reasonable before quitting, that a dead debuffer (which I was) can't debuff, but those don't matter either.
All that matters is that I'm sorry it went down the crapper, and it was my fault. I also plan on keeping it to a one time occurence, too. Hope to team with Crab again at some point, as well.
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people have bad nights, I appreciate your post.
However I was not on the team so...
But still appreciated.
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Even though I was no where near my computer for this event, this is the kind of behavior that continues to bring me back to Liberty year after year. Things went sour during the TF, people made some rash decisions it sounds like, but in the end, everyone was man/woman/thing enough to admit where they went wrong and apologize. If I'm around for one of these TFs, don't hesitate to let me know.
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this is the kind of behavior that continues to bring me back to Liberty year after year
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/e yuck.
If I ever get hungry during a tf, I hope I'm thing enough to get some food while I'm faceplanted!
Hazy, on personal note: My mother never liked my puns either when I was growing up. She locked me in my bedroom and told me to "pun my way out".
I told her to O-pun the door.
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@Ukase
This pun-ishment is uncalled for!
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Apologies for last night to the ITF participants on my team late last night 9 (I was on She's Got Crab Legs). Despite the assertion in SHF that it was not a "speed" ITF, I was becoming impatient with the pace of the TF. I mistakenly assumed that even a shard-focussed ITF could wrap things up in 90min (I usually find them to conclude in about 50-70). On the final platform, I was surprised to see a nictus-pulling tactic for Rom being initiated, as my experience with my last 30-40+ ITFs (all LB/SHF PUGs) had exclusively employed the "crush Rom 4 times fast" method, which usually takes about 5 min with a debuffer and good damage, which we had. Perhaps due to the time for the TF running nearly an hour over my expected sleeping start, my assertion of strategy preference for this method was over-dogmatic and was perceived to be apparently dictatorial (though I didn't have the star) by one player (the sole buff/debuffer), who felt it necessary to "teach me a lesson" via quitting on the team, instead of making the case for a method that I thought had been largely discarded by the player-base (as that had been my experience, playing with a fairly broad cross-section of the community). Despite the generous expenditure of a HVAS by one of the remaining players, we were unable to complete the ITF, in the absence of buff/debuff. I should have been more open to taking down Rom "old school" when I encountered the tactic being revisited instead of being locked in my conditioned comfort zone.
I guess the bottom line is, I am sorry for how things went down and for the lack of social graces on display.