Defense question


Aett_Thorn

 

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Just hit 36 on my Ice/Ice tank and I would like some clarification about how defense works.

Currently, with energy absorbsion, I am over the softcap in smashing/lethal, Energy/negative energy, and fire/cold. Melee, Ranged and AoE are about half that.


What I would like to know is what attacks work on what kind of defense. Take CoT Fire Thorn Caster uses fire sword on me. Which defence does that go against? Fire, lethal or Melee? Or does it start with one type of defense and then go to the next and so on?

Thanks!


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Keep in mind some fire attacks also do smashing, so watch out for that.


 

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Originally Posted by Psycho_Sarah View Post
What I would like to know is what attacks work on what kind of defense. Take CoT Fire Thorn Caster uses fire sword on me. Which defence does that go against? Fire, lethal or Melee? Or does it start with one type of defense and then go to the next and so on?
Odds are, Fire Sword is tagged as being a Fire, Lethal, and Melee attack. When determining if it will hit, the game will pick the best of those three defense types to use.

In general, an attack's position (melee, ranged, AoE) and type (fire, lethal, etc) are what you'd expect from how it looks and what sorts of damage it does, but there are some exceptions. For example, Foot Stomp and clones are tagged as "Smashing, AoE" despite looking like a melee attack, and Fireball is tagged as "AoE, Fire" despite doing both fire and smashing damage.


 

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Originally Posted by Katie V View Post
Odds are, Fire Sword is tagged as being a Fire, Lethal, and Melee attack. When determining if it will hit, the game will pick the best of those three defense types to use.
Exactly this. Fire Sword is indeed tagged Fire, Lethal, Melee. It will use the highest defense you have, so if you have 45% Lethal, 30% Fire, and 35% Melee, it will use the value for Lethal to determine whether it hits you or not.


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With defense checking against the highest like the example fire sword doing fire, smashing, and melee, does the same go for resistant? Would it check against which ever is the highest or since it's actually multiple types of damage does it check against each damage type to determine the amount of damage the attack will deal?


 

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Originally Posted by DeathHarvester View Post
With defense checking against the highest like the example fire sword doing fire, smashing, and melee, does the same go for resistant? Would it check against which ever is the highest or since it's actually multiple types of damage does it check against each damage type to determine the amount of damage the attack will deal?
No, resistance values are applied against whatever type of damage it is only.

For instance, let's say that you get attacked by Fire Sword. It is tagged as Melee, Lethal, and Fire for attack vector. Let's say that it will do 60 Lethal Damage, and 40 Fire damage. You have 45% Defense to Lethal, 30% to Fire, and 25% to Melee. To back that up, you have 50% Lethal Resistance, and 30% Fire Resistance.

Fire Sword will attack, and then check against your highest Defense value: in this case, the 45% Lethal Defense. If it manages to get through, then the attack will do:

60 Lethal damage, minus 30 because of Resistance: 30 Lethal Damage
40 Fire damage, minus 12 because of Resistance: 28 Fire damage

For a total of 58 damage.


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