Quick, Simple Question about Defense
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Aett_Thorn,
Posted on: 2011-01-12 02:14 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
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Short answer: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Defense|
Originally Posted by TexasLonghorne
Scenario: You're face to face with a critter wielding a sledgehammer.
You have: 3.75% Smashing/Lethal Defense and 3.75% Melee Defense Which one of those defenses protects you? |
Long answer: Depends on the attack regardless of animation. however, I'm going to assume it's a melee attack with some form of smashing component.
Since it is melee (or melee pbaoe, doesn't matter which), melee defense will protect you. Since it does smashing damage, smash/lethal will protect you.
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Does matter. Many PBAoEs (eg. Foot Stomp and clones) are coded as AoE, not Melee.
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Originally Posted by Signpost
Since it is melee (or melee pbaoe, doesn't matter which)
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None which also has a weapon in it's animation however as far as I know. Still, the best answer is to just read that link I gave..
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Originally Posted by Katie V
Does matter. Many PBAoEs (eg. Foot Stomp and clones) are coded as AoE, not Melee.
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Doesn't matter, they are both the same value. For Defense the game looks at all the attack vectors and types and takes the matching defense value that is highest.
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Originally Posted by TexasLonghorne
Scenario: You're face to face with a critter wielding a sledgehammer.
You have: 3.75% Smashing/Lethal Defense and 3.75% Melee Defense Which one of those defenses protects you? |
Thanks for the link, it is most helpful.
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I see, according to the article that is true. Furthermore if your defense values were as follows:|
Originally Posted by Diggis
Doesn't matter, they are both the same value. For Defense the game looks at all the attack vectors and types and takes the matching defense value that is highest.
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1.75% Smashing/Lethal Defense
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3.75% Melee Defense
The 3.75% melee defense would give you the protection.
Don't mess with Texas!
--moo
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Correct. When the values are even, I don't think anyone has really checked into which value gets applied, because it doesn't really matter. But if the values aren't exactly equal, the highest value against that attack will be used.
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Originally Posted by TexasLonghorne
Thanks for the link, it is most helpful.
I see, according to the article that is true. Furthermore if your defense values were as follows: 1.75% Smashing/Lethal Defense and 3.75% Melee Defense The 3.75% melee defense would give you the protection. |
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Originally Posted by Signpost
None which also has a weapon in it's animation however as far as I know. Still, the best answer is to just read that link I gave..
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All weapons, coded as AoE attacks.
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson
"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus
You look like you're trying to learn more of the intricacies of defense and the math behind the game. I'd suggest you give my write up on defense and the softcap a read. The link is in my signature.
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Reiterating what's been mentioned. |
Originally Posted by TexasLonghorne
Scenario: You're face to face with a critter wielding a sledgehammer.
You have: 3.75% Smashing/Lethal Defense and 3.75% Melee Defense Which one of those defenses protects you? |
If the attack is flagged smashing/melee either would apply. (the game would look for the higher number between the two.)
If the attack was flagged smashing/aoe, the smashing defense would apply.
If your defensive numbers were 3.75% S/L and 3.5% melee and the attack was flagged smashing/melee, the Smashing defense would apply.
Again, depending on how the attack was flagged the higher defensive number would apply. Hope that helps if you hadn't already sorted it out.
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Originally Posted by PapaSlade
Rangle's right....this is fun.
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Scenario: You're face to face with a critter wielding a sledgehammer.
You have:
3.75% Smashing/Lethal Defense
and
3.75% Melee Defense
Which one of those defenses protects you?
Don't mess with Texas!
--moo