Population Decline


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I'd say you got on a bad time or everybody was just in missions and such. Lots of soloing these days.

My personal opinion, on average, the servers are more populated than ever. However, I could be wrong since I don't pay attention...

*declines team invite*


 

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Originally Posted by Amithyst View Post
I know that the economy is not so hot right now. But coming back to
CoH after about a year on the Champion server has been disappointing.The population is not what is use to be.
I go on the Freedom And Infinity servers and the population seems to be thriving.
I think that Paragon studios is going to have to take steps and maybe merge some servers.
I bought GR and I can tell you that is practically a ghost town except for the NPCs.
I don't want to transfer all of my toons cause is going to cost me a pretty penny.
Over the last few months I've seen Champion routinely listed as 'medium load'--it had been a long time since I've seen that for this server. I think its pretty healthy these days--don't forget that the heavily instanced nature of CoH makes it tough to gauge how many are on (plus /hide...)


 

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Originally Posted by Master-Blade View Post
Not for nothing, but the dots are not necessarily an indication of population. They are an indication of server load. The new location the servers were moved to in July 2010 seem to be a bit more unstable than the old ones and have shown a relatively higher load since the change (even on the lowest population servers)... so it's not really a clear comparison.
Didn't know this. Thanks.


 

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Originally Posted by Alpha_Zulu View Post
If you're playing villainside, GL HF trying to find someone to play with. Back when free transfers were up, most of the villain player base move to Freedom.

If you're not a hero player, you won't see much action on the Rogue Isles.
While quite a few people moved from Champion to Freedom for PvP, there's still many that remained; and even then, several I know of that number moved only their PvP characters, leaving the rest behind. There is a villain community; you just need to know where to find them. And while we have lost a few players entirely, a few more have also joined the server, thus helping fill the gap left behind. It isn't quite as desolate as you may believe.

To be honest though, for some of us, like myself, it feels like the population for the server hasn't declined at all. I regularly am on tfs/sfs with a group of friends, and when one takes a break from the game there's usually someone else to take their place. So for me, it hasn't seemed like the server is lacking in terms of population count.

Perhaps the overall population amount has dwindled over the year, but I don't feel it isn't something that requires immediate attention and/or a server merge. I like the fact that Champion has a smaller population; makes for a closer community, one where it feels like everyone knows everyone else.


 

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Originally Posted by Amithyst View Post
I know that the economy is not so hot right now. But coming back to
CoH after about a year on the Champion server has been disappointing.The population is not what is use to be.
I go on the Freedom And Infinity servers and the population seems to be thriving.
I think that Paragon studios is going to have to take steps and maybe merge some servers.
I bought GR and I can tell you that is practically a ghost town except for the NPCs.
I don't want to transfer all of my toons cause is going to cost me a pretty penny.
Like another said alrdy if u like PvP move to freedom server, If u like RP/PvE mission teams then go to Virtue Server. Champion Server took a huge hit when they started being able to actually buy transfers and even more of a hit when they did that whole 1 month free transfers thing exactly 1 year ago. My home is champion server, but i have some toons on others as well mostly on freedom now a days. If u want to " survive " on champion server join up in a actual active SG or gobal channel for champion server, otherwise ur not going to see many random ppl forming teams from lvl 1- lvl 50 like there use to be, and honestly no one can actually say that Champion server has a huge population, Yes there maybe @ least like 100ppl or less online in a certain gobal channel at least for most part of the day, thats not even like all of thoses numbers are even on champion server at the exact moment ur looking @ it. Its not like it use to be where u could just walk around in atlas on a lvl 1 and c all these boardcasts for sewer teams and walk into the hollows, Striga, Brickstown, Founders, Steel, Skyway and see a crap load of ppl running around street wiping. This only still happens for i would say 2 servers out of the 11 ( Not counting EU servers ) and that would be Freedom and Virtue. Funny thing is Champion is like the 5th-6th most active server though out of them all currently, #1 being the greatest.

Also Server Merges more then likely will never happen just for the simple fact of if they did do that then they would have to make sure that all the ppl with the same names and same SG names get some sort of free name/gobal name change, and no 1 wants that.


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Originally Posted by Aneko View Post
Irrelevant to server population. Maybe you haven't heard, but characters can change sides now.
Champion server vill populatuion is crazy low even with GR, honestly it was some what hard to find actually paper/mish teams back in the day, but now?! pls ur not going to find much other then some lvl 50 TFs forming and Mantis TFs from ppl farming shards/merits.


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Originally Posted by Scythus View Post
Funny, almost every day I log in, Champion has had two gold dots on its population rating. This in contrast to the one green dot I'd always see a year ago. The population has clearly grown.
The dots are not a population indicator. They are a server load indicator.



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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
The dots are not a population indicator. They are a server load indicator.
This is very true, they are still a fairly decent way of telling how active the server is at the current time though.


 

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I can only speak from my experience, I do not have any trouble finding teams Red,Blue, or Gold on Champion. I hit SG Channels, G-Friends, BMT. ( I rarely PuG ) I have to try a little harder for a low level villian team. If there were only 10 people on the whole server, you only need 1 person to join you to have a team.


Are you willing to join in on what others are doing or do you want people to join you? Are you willing to bring what the team needs or only what you want to play? Do you pay attention when people ask for help? Are you a pleasant person to team with?


People who are more inclined to complain about not having a team , than to organize something of their own. Don't really fit in here anyway do they?


If you can't find a team on Champion , you probably aren't trying very hard or you aren't a person people want to hang out with. Be nice and try harder.



I would think not being able to find a team in Broadcast has more to do with the popularity of our Global channels. I don't even have broadcast in my tabs. Is there any server that has a huge villain population? My understanding is that Red side is less popular all around. If there is a Villiancentric server and thats your thing why wouldn't you go there?


 

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Harsh. <.<


'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.

 

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Originally Posted by Amily View Post
... you aren't a person people want to hang out with. Be nice and try harder.
Classic


 

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Originally Posted by Amily View Post
People who are more inclined to complain about not having a team , than to organize something of their own. Don't really fit in here anyway do they?


If you can't find a team on Champion , you probably aren't trying very hard or you aren't a person people want to hang out with. Be nice and try harder.
Might be a little too harsh there. Better to be friendly and assume that they really just don't know where they can look to find teamage than assume they might be unpleasant.


 

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Originally Posted by Naloc View Post
Might be a little too harsh there. Better to be friendly and assume that they really just don't know where they can look to find teamage than assume they might be unpleasant.
Sorry if it was a little to GTFO.


I really didn't intend that part for the OP, but more for the people complaining who clearly do know better.


Just sayin...If someone doesn't know where to look asking a question rather than suggesting huge game changes might be better place to start and would read less "The world revolves around me"

I'm having trouble finding a team lately, any tips? Is anyone else having trouble finding teams?
I have been wanting to run (insert event) anyone want to join me?



(Grumbles "Mannn..Force was meaner and he never gets scolded)


 

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Originally Posted by Amily View Post


(Grumbles "Mannn..Force was meaner and he never gets scolded)

(its because he has dangly bits)


 

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Originally Posted by Amily View Post
people complaining who clearly do know better.
You'd think so, wouldn't you...


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I see I'm rubbin' off on someone...




If you feel the need to complain about Champion, leave.


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Amithyst if you ever see me on (@Undead_Cyborg) I can help you if your are looking for TF's, teaming etc. Please feel free to contact me or any of my SG mates for any help.

On a side note, I am surprise that this thread has not been Mod smacked.


 

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Originally Posted by Naloc View Post
While quite a few people moved from Champion to Freedom for PvP, there's still many that remained; and even then, several I know of that number moved only their PvP characters, leaving the rest behind. There is a villain community; you just need to know where to find them. And while we have lost a few players entirely, a few more have also joined the server, thus helping fill the gap left behind. It isn't quite as desolate as you may believe.

To be honest though, for some of us, like myself, it feels like the population for the server hasn't declined at all. I regularly am on tfs/sfs with a group of friends, and when one takes a break from the game there's usually someone else to take their place. So for me, it hasn't seemed like the server is lacking in terms of population count.

Perhaps the overall population amount has dwindled over the year, but I don't feel it isn't something that requires immediate attention and/or a server merge. I like the fact that Champion has a smaller population; makes for a closer community, one where it feels like everyone knows everyone else.
When the hell did you resub?

:O

Why hello thar

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Originally Posted by _Force_ View Post



If you feel the need to complain about Champion, leave.
I don't "need" to do anything.

If I want to say x server sucks because of y reason that's my prerogative.

If you want to act like an elitist, hows about *you* leave.



P.S. I did leave Champion


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Originally Posted by Aneko View Post
Irrelevant to server population. Maybe you haven't heard, but characters can change sides now.
You're assuming everyone bought GR. Some people actually *gasp* didn't buy GR. nowai

The villain/hero population on the Rogue Isles side of the game was higher at some point, the OP is correct in their claim that the population has dwindled.


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Originally Posted by Shaytanah View Post
Over the last few months I've seen Champion routinely listed as 'medium load'--it had been a long time since I've seen that for this server. I think its pretty healthy these days--don't forget that the heavily instanced nature of CoH makes it tough to gauge how many are on (plus /hide...)
This is an interesting point, but I think the "medium" load isn't any indication to population. If I had to guess based off of no actual proof, I'd say the load increase has something to do with Ultra mode. More people maybe running in higher graphics or something. I don't know, but I won't believe that the server has increased in population or activity since i13.


 

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Originally Posted by Alpha_Zulu View Post
You're assuming everyone bought GR.
As a mind-reader, you make a fine bricklayer. I neither said nor implied any such thing. It's a fact that some villains have moved to Paragon. All of mine, for example.

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Originally Posted by Alpha_Zulu View Post
Some people actually *gasp* didn't buy GR. nowai
As a sarcastic person... never mind.


'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.

 

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Originally Posted by Cherry Cupcakes View Post
(its because he has dangly bits)
is that what you call them on him, or is that what he calls them?


 

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Originally Posted by Amithyst View Post
I know that the economy is not so hot right now. But coming back to
CoH after about a year on the Champion server has been disappointing.The population is not what is use to be.
I go on the Freedom And Infinity servers and the population seems to be thriving.
I think that Paragon studios is going to have to take steps and maybe merge some servers.
I bought GR and I can tell you that is practically a ghost town except for the NPCs.
I don't want to transfer all of my toons cause is going to cost me a pretty penny.
honestly, i havent played in any other server than champion. I'd believe that there are some servers more populated than champion. Without networking and connections, i can see your point of view. If you're still interested in playing in Champion, i can connect you to a pretty decent channel, Hammer Nation. Just /tell me at @phlre

With the introduction of GR, ive seen an increase of activity on Champion, at least blue-side. I think many are migrating villains over to the blue-side also.

As for the champion-crazies, just take a breath and dont go overboard with someone's lousy opinions. Remember, yours are just as valid as their's, and dont carry more water, though you'd think you have more ownership. Its alright if one's opinion is not truly representative of the server or not. Someone's opinion cannot be reversed thru brow-beating and you shouldnt try to shove your own opinion down someone's throat, cuz your no better.

We all know how good our server is. It goes w/o saying. If a person wanna talk bad about it, obviously they're not deeply involved and only serves to turn the other vidiots away. Im plenty happy with the peeps i get to team with presently. Those who migrated out of Champion obviously were the fodder who are transient anyways. No loss.... only gain


 

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Originally Posted by PHlRE View Post
Those who migrated out of Champion obviously were the fodder who are transient anyways. No loss.... only gain
True story.


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Originally Posted by Alpha_Zulu View Post

If you want to act like an elitist, hows about *you* leave.
I wasn't aware that advising someone to leave if they didn't like it was acting like an "elitist".



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Originally Posted by PHlRE View Post
Those who migrated out of Champion obviously were the fodder who are transient anyways. No loss.... only gain
This right here.


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Did ya'll get possibly trolled by the OP? :/


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did ya'll get possibly trolled by the op? :/
that never happens